GurjantGnostic

Woops. The image was supposed to have the caption "Tera Murti". 
Amen bro. Whoever posted that online originally has blessed us all. I googled Shastars displayed to get an image to post to say, we have murti already in a way the Gurus way. 
Then I counted the Shastars after I had selected that photo and I realized woh... there's thirteen Shastar there. Vaheguru it is Tera Murti!

@GurjantGnostic - What's that in your display pic bro? That also looks amazing too.
Thanks a lot
 
Bhul chuk maaf

Beautiful picture bro. Thanks a lot for sharing.
 
ਬਾਂਕ ਬਜ੍ਰ ਬਿਛੁਓ ਬਿਸਿਖ ਬਿਰਹ ਬਾਨ ਸਭ ਰੂਪ ॥
ਜਿਨ ਕੋ ਤੁਮ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਭਏ ਜਗਤ ਕੇ ਭੂਪ ॥੨੫॥
 
Btw, this thread has gone off-topic. @sarabatam
 
Bhul chuk maaf
 
 

Your husband is a Muslim as well?

Are you sure? 
There are hordes of pervert muslim blokes who seem to prey on vulnerable females (especially underage ones) of other communities. How do we know that you aren't one of them? 
And if there is any sister who would actually PM some random muslim over the internet - they must be retarded. 
And the rest of you here - don't be retarded and put any of our sisters under any potential risk.
 
 
 

ਸਾਂਗ ਸਰੋਹੀ ਸੈਫ ਅਸਿ ਤੀਰ ਤੁਪਕ ਤਰਵਾਰਿ ॥
Incorrect Pronunciation -  ਸਾਗ - Mustard Greens
Correct Pronunciation -  ਸਾਂਗ - Spear
 
@Soulfinder - Thanks bro.
 
Bhul chuk maaf

This line has been discussed a few times on this forum. Will try and locate a thread and add it here.
 
Strict monogamy is not a core Sikh value. It never has been. Throughout the times, Sikh men did take more than one wife and there was never any issue over it. This change to monogamy happened when the British took over Panjab, and tried to enforce their marriage views on the populace. Sikhs and Hindus acquiesced whilst the Muslims didn't.
 
I think Gyani Gyan Singh ji wrote that Guru Sahib married 4 wives who each brought a female attendent to the Guru's house as well.
 
no bro.
 
Don't know and possibly think there isn't one. The earliest source that talks about jhatka to my knowledge in Dhadi Nath Mal's Amarnama, where he details the Sikhs doing jhatka of Madho Das' animals in his ashram.
 
Yes jhatka is done at Sri Patna Sahib.

I'm based in England.
 
What does bhul chuk maaf mean?
 
thanks,
 

Bhul - Mistake
Chuk - Miss
Maaf - Sorry
So basically, Daas apologizes for making any mistake or missing something.
Daas means Servant/Slave (of the Almighty God).
 
Bhul chuk maaf

Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale also used to give "Darghai Parshad" (please see below) to Hindus and Muslims.
Why would Sant jee do that? He had SPIRITUAL POWERS to convert non-Sikhs into Sikhs. Why didn't he just try converting non-Sikhs?
The answer is SIMPLE. He was following GURMAT. Gurmat DOES NOT encourage us to convert people, because all people (Sikhs and non-Sikhs) have a chance to reach Sachkhand.
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Complete 160 Malas daily of Ram (Nam); 40 Malas if Ram is recited four times on each bead
A Mohammedan was advised to practice and recite the name of Allah on each bead as above.
Unquote[1]
[1] - Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj - Philosophy and Maryada - Dargahi Ticket (babanandsinghsahib.org)
 
Bhul chuk maaf

READ THIS SAAKHI
 
SAAKHI STARTS 
Bhai Moola, Bhai Sooja, Bhai Chandu, Bhai Raamdaas Bhandaari, Bhai Baala and Bhai Sayeen Daas came to Siri Guru Arjun Dev jee Maharaj and asked a very important and pertinent question about way the system of Karma works in Sikhi. They asked if the Paap (sins) and Punn (good deeds) of Gursikhs are accounted for and rewarded separately or are they netted out against each other and only the remaining Paap or Punn are rewarded. In other words, their question was that as an example if someone has 100 Punns and 60 Paaps, then do they pay for 100 minus 60 = 40 Punns or do they get fruits of 100 Punns and 60 Paaps separately.

This is a very relevant question for us. Do our Punns delete our Paaps and do our Paaps dampen the fruits of our Punns or are the Paaps and Punns accounted for separately and the Jeev gets fruits of all the Punns and Paaps they commit.

Siri Guru Arjun Dev jee in response to their question, informed them that for the purpose of the accountability of Karma, there are 4 kinds of Sikhs:

1. Sehkaam Karmi
2. Nihkaam Karmi
3. Upaashna waale
4. Giani

Then Guru Sahib asked them, about which kind of Sikhs was their question related to. The Sikhs with folded hands and extreme humility requested Guru Sahib to tell them about all 4 kinds of Sikhs and how Karma affects them differently.

Hereon, the summary of Guru Sahib's Updesh, as written by Bhai Mani Singh jee in Sikha dee Bhagatmaala, is presented:

In the rule of a king, there are 4 kinds of citizens. The first kind pay taxes based on a certain percentage and no matter what, they have to pay their share. The second kind have a fixed amount they pay as taxes and even if their income is high, still they end up paying little taxes and get to keep most of their wealth. The third kind are close to the king and sometimes present the king with good horses or other gifts and as a result they enjoy tax free income and also get many other perks. The fourth kind are the Maafi citizens who are very close to the king. They go about travelling with the king and instead of paying taxes, they get paid by the state for being close to the king.

Same way, Maharaj jee too has 4 kinds of Sikhs:

Sehkaam Karmi, the first type of Sikhs are Sikhs in appearance only but all their priorities are Maya related. Any Karma related to Dharma that they do is only to forward their Maya related agenda. Any Paath or Naam Simran they do is only for their selfish needs. On the heads of such people, the stick of Jamdoots (messengers of death) always remains. Their Paaps and Punns are accounted for separately. If they have total of 160 Karma which include 80 Punns and 80 Paaps, they get fruits of all 160 Karams and none of their sins are netted out against their good deeds. Depending on their Karma, they enjoy the fruits of heaven and hell in the next world. Since they are Sikhs, they do get to be born in the homes of rich and prosperous people in their next life and occasionally are given opportunities to earn Gurmat related Karma - Naam Simran and Gurbani Paath.

Nihkaam Karmi, the second type of Sikhs, they become Sikhs not out of some greed or vested interest but because they like to be Dharmi (religious). They do good deeds and religious deeds out of pleasure and because such is their natural disposition, as opposed to doing it just for their Maya-related agenda. Even though they have natural tendency to do good deeds, still they do end up committing many sins as well because due to lack of serious Naam Simran and Gurbani Paath, they come under the influence of Maya and 5 Bikaars. Their Paaps and Punns are taken together and evened out and they only pay for their remaining Karma. As an example, if a Nihkaam Karmi Sikh has a total of 160 Karma which include 100 Punns and 60 Paaps, most of their Karma are netted out and they pay the fruits of only 40 Karma. Their sins are netted out against their good deeds and they seldom go to hell as a punishment of their sins. They get to be born in homes of Sant Gursikhs and are given ample opportunities to engage in Naam Simran and Gurbani Paath.

Upaashna Waale Sikh: Upaashna waale Sikhs are such Sikhs who have their priority set on Naam and Gurbani Paath only. Their natural disposition is religious and they willingly do only good Karma. They always do Punns and spend time in Naam Abhyaas and Gurbani Paath but still contrary to their natural disposition, they commit some Paaps (sins) as a result of their Prarabadh (destiny) or when they come under the influence of Bikaars. Guru Sahib forgives their Paaps and if such Gursikhs don't reach their spiritual destiny, then they take another Janam and are born in the homes of Sant Gursikhs and eventually get Gyaan and are released from birth and death.

Gyani: Gyan Gursikhs who have realized their self as well as Vaheguru, consider this world to be Mithiya (false). They reject the system of Karma and depend solely on Vaheguru jee's Naam. Since they don't associate with Haume, none of their Karma falls under the Karma system. Just as darkness does not go near sun, same way Bikaars and Paaps don't go near Gyani Gursikhs. They are free from Karma. They neither get rewarded for their Punns nor get punished for their mistakes. First of all they don't commit any mistake but if they unwittingly do commit a mistake as per this Gurbani Pankiti: ਜੇ ਬਾਹਰਹੁ ਭੁਲਿ ਚੁਕਿ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਭੀ ਖਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਣੇ ॥, they are not held accountable for it. Then the Gursikhs asked Guru Sahib as to what happens to the Punns that are done by a Gyani and the mistakes they make. Guru Sahib gave the most interesting and revealing answer. Guru Sahib said that since the Gyani rises above the effect of Karma, any Punns that they do during their life here on Earth, are given to the ones who serve them. In other words, the Gursikhs who serve the Gyani Gursikhs, get the rewards of the Punns done by Gyani Gursikhs. On the other hand the ones who slander Gyani Gursikhs, get the fruit of unwitting mistakes committed by the Gyani Gursikhs. Gyani stays Nirlep (aloof) from all effects and fruits of Paaps and Punns.

As for the future of these 4 types of Gursikhs, the Sehkaam Karmi Sikhs are born in heavens and other high realms where they enjoy good life and then come back on Earth and are born in the homes of rich and prosperous people. They occasionally get chance to earn Gursikhi and eventually over many life forms, slowly rise to become Jeevan Mukat.

The Nihkaam Karmi and Upaashna waale Gursikhs get to go to higher Khands and are reborn here in this world in the homes of Sant Gursikhs. They get many chances of doing Bhagti and they get to meet Sadh Sangat. Eventually they become Gyani Gursikhs and get everlasting blissful life in Sachkhand.

Gyani Gursikhs of course get to go to Sachkhand after their exhausting their time here on Earth.

The above thoughts are in accordance to Gurmat. In religions like Buddhism and many sects of Hinduism, the system of Karma is all powerful and totally independent. In Gurmat, the system of Karma is there but it is not run automatically (especially for Gursikhs) but Vaheguru jee is actively involved as a witness of the Karams of Jeevs and in giving the fruits of the good and bad Karma of Jeevs and Gursikhs. It seems natural that everyone cannot be given the same fruit of a single Karma.

Let's take a worldly example to illustrate the point that all sinner are not treated equally by Vaheguru. If a repeat offender goes to the court of a worldly judge, the judge is likely to give him the maximum sentence possible and on the other hand if a first time offender goes to the same judge for the same offense as the repeat offender, then the judge is likely to go easy on the first time offender. Same way, a Gursikh who is indulged in Naam, Gurbani and Punns for the most part would get much less punishment for a rare sin as opposed to a Sikh of first stage who is still very much engaged in Maya.

This Updesh of Guru Sahib should prompt us to strive to become Gyani Gursikhs and at least at the current time be at the level of Upaashna waale Gursikh, who are always eager to do Bhagti by engaging in Naam Abhyaas, Gurbani Kirtan and Paath. Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.
 
 
SAKHI ENDS
 
Now, I think we have understood the superiority of having Guru Sahib as your Guru and Vaheguru as your Worshipee. People are born in houses of Sikh Families as a result of their good karams.
If a non Sikh worships Vaheguru and keeps Rehat and reads bani with Prem, he will certainly be born in the house of a Sant or Brahmgyani abd get many chances to increase his kamaayi and get liberation.
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Another way to put it...
You don't want to change Sikhi, or associate with people that change Sikhi, it's better you know and support what Sikhi is and just admit this is one place you're falling short. You're better off in Sangat that say it's Kurehit, and just being a papi like everyone else that is also falling short of the Guru's example. 
In the right Sangat the mini beard would turn heads were those heads not so disciplined as not to turn. The Bhenji with the Dhari gets the cred. 

If you want to use your own mind go ahead. Get laser and be part of any Jatha you want.
Finding someone else to be your echo chamber to condone committing a Kurehit doesn't change anything.
If you choose to do whatever to your Kesh own it.
But Veer Ji was right about knowing the Guru's thoughts on keeping Kesh. It's one of your Panj Kakar. Sorry Bhenji.
A real Gursikh husband would love your Kesh and be truly impressed with you keeping it.
Be careful with common sense. It's Kalyug. 

So society tells us. But if that was true all the Bhenjis wouldn't be conflicted about it. We've just been taught to idealize prebuscency. 
Apparently it varies naturally. 

Another way to put it...
You don't want to change Sikhi, or associate with people that change Sikhi, it's better you know and support what Sikhi is and just admit this is one place you're falling short. You're better off in Sangat that say it's Kurehit, and just being a papi like everyone else that is also falling short of the Guru's example. 
In the right Sangat the mini beard would turn heads were those heads not so disciplined as not to turn. The Bhenji with the Dhari gets the cred. 

If you want to use your own mind go ahead. Get laser and be part of any Jatha you want.
Finding someone else to be your echo chamber to condone committing a Kurehit doesn't change anything.
If you choose to do whatever to your Kesh own it.
But Veer Ji was right about knowing the Guru's thoughts on keeping Kesh. It's one of your Panj Kakar. Sorry Bhenji.
A real Gursikh husband would love your Kesh and be truly impressed with you keeping it.
Be careful with common sense. It's Kalyug. 

Should cast the seeds and see where they sprout.  

Bhai sahib I have no problem in discussing about Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib or Raagmaala. I said that because people can do more vichar and give more inputs for doubts in uchaaran or vishraam of Aad Bani. This is because we all are comparitively more familiar with the vishraams and Gurbani grammar applied in Guru Granth Sahib and it is easier to do arth vichar. Dasam Granth Sahib has more mehnge shabd from various languages. Eg: Shastar naam maala question of Soulfinder ji. If you can answer his query, then it would be great!
Doubts from banis of all granths are welcomed.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

This santhya recording by bhagat jaswant singh ji is amazing.
As every matra is given full pronunciation.
https://www.damdamitaksal.com/audio/listen/J/754-bhagat-jaswant-singh/728-nitnem-santhiya

Were these Santhiya tracks recorded after Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji went for Sachkhand? Because Daas has heard from many gursikhs that after Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji, the adding of bindi (when necessary to get correct meanings) was greatly reduced by paathis of Jatha Bhindran. 
Bhul chuk maaf 
Trimandeep Singh 

Yes I suppose but they are great vidarthi of Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa
They studied along with Sant Kartar Singh ji.
They probably have the most shudh uchaaran of bani in the whole world.

I have heard that uchaaran and putting of bindis has been changed in many words by paathis of Jatha Bhindran after Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's achkhand gaman. 
One example is Sant Giani Mohan Singh Ji Bhindranwaale pronounced ਤ੍ਵਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ as ਤੁਐਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ whereas traditionally in all sampradas, ਤ੍ਵਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ was pronounced as ਤੁਅਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

I think your right because bhagat ji also says ਤੁਅਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ in the recording.
 

IMHO, let's keep the topic open to ALL Gurbani (Sri Aad - including Sri Raagmala Sahib, Sri Dasam and Sri Sarabloh).
Thanks
 
Bhul chuk maaf