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dairy farms are just as bad Bhenji so if that upsets you, you should not be using dairy products either. 

Does Gyani Thakur Singh drink milk? Or use dairy products?  What does he think happens to the baby cows? 

I find it a bit hypocritical if someone is staunchly vegetarian and says even eggs are not allowed, but then is ok with dairy - where they are essentially turning a blind eye to the fact that the calves are killed within the first week of their life, so that the milk originally meant for them, can be used for humans.  One common misconception is that cows produce enough milk for the calves and us.  They are horribly wrong.  Cows only produce milk if they are pregnant and have a calf.  If these people think that all the baby calves are kept and allowed to grow to maturity and live full lives, they are seriously mistaken.  So if it's about the killing, then dairy should be prohibited as well and one should be vegan. Because I would think there would be bad karma in killing baby cows just so you can drink the milk meant for them.  
I actually feel better about eating eggs than I do about dairy... eggs are never fertilized so nothing is being killed, unlike with dairy. Though I do eat both.  I don't eat meat though... personal choice.  

The above pic look like big propaganda as in North India jatts, thakurs , yadav's and few other castes are known to physically attack Dalits but hardly Brahmins attack them as their numbers are very small. There is good chance that these girls are from Mazbhi sikh background and were oppressed by Jatts but later on propaganda machinery changed the culprits to Brahmins
 
Any link to above story is aprreciated

Satkiran ji
 
Lets be frank , The type of 21st century gender equality of western style you are searching in Sikhism , you will hardly find it. Look at JATT vs Khalsa war thread. Khalsa like other martial communnities asked defeated brars to give their daughters in marriage. In other words they were just like other martial communnities who used to force defeated enemies  to give their daughters for marriages.

Social bond can be with anybody but hormonal changes happen only in woman's body that make them attached to their kids.
 
As far you being good mother or bad mother , only time will tell many times what we think we can't do destiny make us very good in that

Social bond can be with anybody but hormonal changes happen only in woman's body that make them attached to their kids.
 
As far you being good mother or bad mother , only time will tell many times what we think we can't do destiny make us very good in that

there are truck load of historical evidence that sikhs consumed non veg diet particularly in 18th and even in 19th century . lacto vegetarianism gained popularity in latter half of 19th century and 20th century but you don't want to accept it.I don't think think that there is any historical evidence that sikhs did not ate chopri roti's.but one thing is clear that gurbani always propagated simple diet which today's sikhs have forgotted. You can go to any gurdwara and see that 99% of over 25 sikhs have pot belly's. so sikhs are already suffering in pain because of high calories of oil and ghee.
I was just showing you that if you just take literal meaning of tuks then you can find many of them which say something but had deeper meaning
 
I don't think the kabeer ji's tuk you are showing  is against non veg food. It is more reference to type of persons like sharabai kababi  and go to prostitute's .Also kabeer ji 's tuk mention paan , can you please tell me what is wrong in paan if tobacco is not put it in as many people just eat sweet paan after food

there is word sharabi kababi who indudge in these type of thiongs even though kabab is not considered as bad among non vegetarian  communnitties
Also those who believe that kabir ji's line are against meat and fish how will they justify fareed ji's tuk
 ਜਿਨਾ ਖਾਧੀ ਚੋਪੜੀ ਘਣੇ ਸਹਨਿਗੇ ਦੁਖ ॥੨੮॥ जिना खाधी चोपड़ी घणे सहनिगे दुख ॥२८॥ Jinā kẖāḏẖī cẖopṛī gẖaṇe sėhnige ḏukẖ. ||28|| Those who eat buttered bread, will suffer in terrible pain. ||28||  ਰੁਖੀ ਸੁਖੀ ਖਾਇ ਕੈ ਠੰਢਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਪੀਉ ॥ रुखी सुखी खाइ कै ठंढा पाणी पीउ ॥ Rukẖī sukẖī kẖā▫e kai ṯẖandẖā pāṇī pī▫o. Eat dry bread, and drink cold water. fish is not staple diet but chopri roti is very popular among sikhs and even served in langar

there is word sharabi kababi who indudge in these type of thiongs even though kabab is not considered as bad among non vegetarian  communnitties
Also those who believe that kabir ji's line are against meat and fish how will they justify fareed ji's tuk
 ਜਿਨਾ ਖਾਧੀ ਚੋਪੜੀ ਘਣੇ ਸਹਨਿਗੇ ਦੁਖ ॥੨੮॥ जिना खाधी चोपड़ी घणे सहनिगे दुख ॥२८॥ Jinā kẖāḏẖī cẖopṛī gẖaṇe sėhnige ḏukẖ. ||28|| Those who eat buttered bread, will suffer in terrible pain. ||28||  ਰੁਖੀ ਸੁਖੀ ਖਾਇ ਕੈ ਠੰਢਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਪੀਉ ॥ रुखी सुखी खाइ कै ठंढा पाणी पीउ ॥ Rukẖī sukẖī kẖā▫e kai ṯẖandẖā pāṇī pī▫o. Eat dry bread, and drink cold water. fish is not staple diet but chopri roti is very popular among sikhs and even served in langar

Is this another way of saying:
 
Billi sau choohay kaa kay haj gayee

Okay cool, show me any Mughal source that states 250.000 of their forces were wiped out in those battles. Those numbers are quite significant so the Mughal courtiers and scribes must have written it down somewhere.

The key to this is in the second line which you have posted and gives the context for the first line. In fact, it's actually an incomplete sentence in the first line....

Those mortals who consume marijuana, fish, and wine (speaking of useless rituals); no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals (the qualifier referring to the previous line) they follow, they will all go to hell (obviously not literal hell, as all that exists is the ONE, but Hell for Sikhs is to be separated from God, so it's saying these things won't help you to become One with God.)
In other words, the Gurus admonished blind rituals and taught that they were useless in our pursuit of merging with Waheguru.  There were many ritualistic practices involving mind alerting substances like marijuana (bhang), opium, and wine (alcohol) - and yes even fish in India...  It is the useless ritual which is being scorned in the above...it's saying all these fake blind useless rituals will get you nowhere.
Example of a Ritual Fish:

We can see further down in the same shabad that it was no the act of eating fish or meat which is being scorned but the ritualistic behaviour... when it's stated that the Brahmins may be the Gurus of the physical world, but they still 'rot and die' in the useless complexities of the rituals in which they partook, but still no closer to God:

ਕਬੀਰ ਬਾਮਨੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਜਗਤ ਕਾ ਭਗਤਨ ਕਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
Kabīr bāman gurū hai jagaṯ kā bẖagṯan kā gur nāhi.
Kabeer, the Brahmin may be the guru of the world, but he is not the Guru of the devotees. 
ਅਰਝਿ ਉਰਝਿ ਕੈ ਪਚਿ ਮੂਆ ਚਾਰਉ ਬੇਦਹੁ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੨੩੭॥
Arajẖ urajẖ kai pacẖ mū▫ā cẖāra▫o beḏahu māhi. ||237||
He rots and dies in the perplexities of the four Vedas. ||237||
And finally again in the same shabad, Kabeer qualifes it all by saying that God is not foind through useless rituals etc. because God is within everyone and everything... in every grain of sand, and states there is no difference between himself and God:

ਸੁਨੁ ਸਖੀ ਪੀਅ ਮਹਿ ਜੀਉ ਬਸੈ ਜੀਅ ਮਹਿ ਬਸੈ ਕਿ ਪੀਉ ॥ सुनु सखी पीअ महि जीउ बसै जीअ महि बसै कि पीउ ॥ Sun sakẖī pī▫a mėh jī▫o basai jī▫a mėh basai kė pī▫o. Listen, O my companions: my soul dwells in my Beloved, and my Beloved dwells in my soul. 
ਜੀਉ ਪੀਉ ਬੂਝਉ ਨਹੀ ਘਟ ਮਹਿ ਜੀਉ ਕਿ ਪੀਉ ॥੨੩੬॥ जीउ पीउ बूझउ नही घट महि जीउ कि पीउ ॥२३६॥ Jī▫o pī▫o būjẖa▫o nahī gẖat mėh jī▫o kė pī▫o. ||236|| I realize that there is no difference between my soul and my Beloved; I cannot tell whether my soul or my Beloved dwells in my heart. ||236||

ਹਰਿ ਹੈ ਖਾਂਡੁ ਰੇਤੁ ਮਹਿ ਬਿਖਰੀ ਹਾਥੀ ਚੁਨੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
Har hai kẖāʼnd reṯ mėh bikẖrī hāthī cẖunī na jā▫e.
The Lord is like sugar, scattered in the sand; the elephant cannot pick it up.  (permeates everything)
ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਗੁਰਿ ਭਲੀ ਬੁਝਾਈ ਕੀਟੀ ਹੋਇ ਕੈ ਖਾਇ ॥੨੩੮॥
Kahi Kabīr gur bẖalī bujẖā▫ī kītī ho▫e kai kẖā▫e. ||238||
Says Kabeer, the Guru has given me this sublime understanding: become an ant, and feed on it. ||238||
 
So we can easily see this shabad is not saying anything about the act of eating meat or fish for sustenence.  It's speaking about useless rituals / pilgrimages / fasts etc as a means to find God, saying all these methods are fruitless when God is in everything and even yourself.  Don't worry about outward shows (rituals), instead focus within your own self, where God is merged like sugar in the sand... immerse yourself in the creation and God by realizing that God is everywhere.  The elephant can't see it because he is separate from the sand... instead if we become like the ant and immerse ourselves within the sand then we will realize we are surrounded by Waheguru.

read from independent sources

 
Abdali halted Maratha imperialism while sikhs grew stronger

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Agree there are many Hindu's who have much more shradha in gurughars than sikhs. recently I went to my relative's house and I saw wedding card which has a name of hindu man and sikh woman. My chachi told me that this guy lives in front of her house . he wears a turban and keep uncut hair. he do immense sewa in gurdwara yet he do not have singh in his name and his entire family is hindu
 
Hindu's were one of the main supply line of providing converts to sikhism .Because of handful of anti sikh hindu's ,sikhs   shooed away plenty of  converts and are running after their  own children to keep sikhi alive .Many of the these born sikhs don't even care about it

We very proudly show one of the cases but millions of hindus out there condemn 84 events in the same voice and have always been contributing to Guru Ghars have we ever given them credit? We will go ahead to curse them for any sick reason

I was 99 in may end and now I am 92 . I have health problem which restrict my movement very much.
 
I tried reducing fried food , failed
I took supplements for weight loss failed
I started walking 3 km without reducing diet , failed
Also I have to take oral corticosteroids several times in year, loosing weight was looking impossible.
then in june I reduced my diet considerably , took few replacement shakes which helped them when I felt extremely hungry.
 
1) You have to tolerate hunger
2)take few replacement shake s if they satisfy you
3) do as movement of body as you can . NEAT is also very important 
Non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12468415

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Agree there are many Hindu's who have much more shradha in gurughars than sikhs. recently I went to my relative's house and I saw wedding card which has a name of hindu man and sikh woman. My chachi told me that this guy lives in front of her house . he wears a turban and keep uncut hair. he do immense sewa in gurdwara yet he do not have singh in his name and his entire family is hindu
 
Hindu's were one of the main supply line of providing converts to sikhism .Because of handful of anti sikh hindu's ,sikhs   shooed away plenty of  converts and are running after their  own children to keep sikhi alive .Many of the these born sikhs don't even care about it

climbing stairs will drain your energy.It is not a good way to loose weight. reduce your diet and do plenty of walking.meal replacement shakes are also good way to control hunger

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Agree there are many Hindu's who have much more shradha in gurughars than sikhs. recently I went to my relative's house and I saw wedding card which has a name of hindu man and sikh woman. My chachi told me that this guy lives in front of her house . he wears a turban and keep uncut hair. he do immense sewa in gurdwara yet he do not have singh in his name and his entire family is hindu
 
Hindu's were one of the main supply line of providing converts to sikhism .Because of handful of anti sikh hindu's ,sikhs   shooed away plenty of  converts and are running after their  own children to keep sikhi alive .Many of the these born sikhs don't even care about it

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Agree there are many Hindu's who have much more shradha in gurughars than sikhs. recently I went to my relative's house and I saw wedding card which has a name of hindu man and sikh woman. My chachi told me that this guy lives in front of her house . he wears a turban and keep uncut hair. he do immense sewa in gurdwara yet he do not have singh in his name and his entire family is hindu
 
Hindu's were one of the main supply line of providing converts to sikhism .Because of handful of anti sikh hindu's ,sikhs   shooed away plenty of  converts and are running after their  own children to keep sikhi alive .Many of the these born sikhs don't even care about it

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Agree there are many Hindu's who have much more shradha in gurughars than sikhs. recently I went to my relative's house and I saw wedding card which has a name of hindu man and sikh woman. My chachi told me that this guy lives in front of her house . he wears a turban and keep uncut hair. he do immense sewa in gurdwara yet he do not have singh in his name and his entire family is hindu
 
Hindu's were one of the main supply line of providing converts to sikhism .Because of handful of anti sikh hindu's ,sikhs   shooed away plenty of  converts and are running after their  own children to keep sikhi alive .Many of the these born sikhs don't even care about it

There are lot of practical problems which a person in real world. tell me which family will even consider him for rishta for  their daughter

wow .some of best knowledgeable persons on sikh history are fighting like kids on  on internet forum. So much anger and that too on online forum no wonder  sikhism in such desperate state. Anger and ego is so high among us. No nimarta left

wow .some of best knowledgeable persons on sikh history are fighting like kids on  on internet forum. So much anger and that too on online forum no wonder  sikhism in such desperate state. Anger and ego is so high among us. No nimarta left

As long debates are in civilized manner let them have