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    das got a reaction from Bhoolea bhatkea in God Residing in the Mind (mann)   
    I don't think anyone can "have god reside in your mind"; because He is already there but we cannot find Him. e.g Butter is hidden in the milk but becomes visible only when someone does follow the process of churning.
    Same way God is there, it's just a matter of:
    * Finding reasons Why we cannot find him?
     - Because we're finding Him in the wrong place.
     - and our Mind does have faults.
    * And once we're aware of those, we just need to follow the process of removing those veils.
    Sat has already explained what really means by "Raab da mann wich vasna a.k.a Raab nu labh lena", but it comes with KIRPA.
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    das got a reaction from harsharan000 in God Residing in the Mind (mann)   
    I don't think anyone can "have god reside in your mind"; because He is already there but we cannot find Him. e.g Butter is hidden in the milk but becomes visible only when someone does follow the process of churning.
    Same way God is there, it's just a matter of:
    * Finding reasons Why we cannot find him?
     - Because we're finding Him in the wrong place.
     - and our Mind does have faults.
    * And once we're aware of those, we just need to follow the process of removing those veils.
    Sat has already explained what really means by "Raab da mann wich vasna a.k.a Raab nu labh lena", but it comes with KIRPA.
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    das got a reaction from ssinghuk3 in Does attainment of Naam Daan ensure the path to moksha?   
    As both Lucky and Sat have already mentioned that you cannot take a backseat after getting the naam.
    * Guru can give you the spark, but it is YOU who needs to work on that. There's no way around it.
    * There is a big possibility that you could go astray but Guru is there to contain that and may bring you back on path if you've karma is good enough. Or through Kirpa.
    * Your faith WILL be tested by environments/circumstances, so be prepared for it.
    FAITH should be like this; only then you can succeed:
    Let's say, I'm going to jump from a mountain without any fear; because I know that only 2 things can happen:
    * Either Guru will place his hand under feet and won't let me suffer; or
    * Or He will give me wings and I could fly.
    There is NO 3rd option.
    From my personal experience, one can attempt the above but some times, the circumstances are such that you question; and that's the time, you loose. But Guru is great, as he won't leave you alone.
    Now, above is the example and in no-way asking anyone to try jumping from mountain.
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    Many Saints have mentioned that Faith is more important than the Puran Guru. Puran Guru cannot do anything, if the student doesn't believe Him.
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    das reacted to Lucky in Danger with Microwaves, WIFI and Cell phones   
    Trust me guys, this thing is bigger than you think.
    I've mentioned on some other thread before and also about why I don't carry no cellphone in my pocket and nor do I keep wifi on 24/7.  I see the future plagued by mental health issues as a big problem in society along with cancer.  General pollution and contaminants in food destabilise our cells, and this leads to all the crap we suffer. Cellphone, Wi-Fi and broadcasting electronics all emit radiations and these are in your phone's as well.  Just because we can't see the crap in the air, we shrug our shoulders. At the end of the day, the mental effects are apparent amongst the young youth of today and it will only get worse.
    If you want your sukham sareer to be healthy and full active, it makes sense to avoid the many sukham pollutants around you. Everything that is man-made and put into soil, sea and air environments, is in effect displacing something else that is already present(Archimedes-eureka!).Therefore, we are simply screwing with play of nature and causing a shift in natural balance.   For that, there will be guaranteed consequences as per hukam.
    see the below emf link to learn more....
    http://toomuchemf.com
     
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Head/Hair care   
    Traditionally Desi Ghee is used on the head when one is engaged in serious meditation.
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Sikh Astrologer   
    How many of us have studied this so-called Astrology?
    In short:
    - Astrology canNOT lead to higher Spiritual state.
    - But higher Spiritual state would bring the knowledge of Astrology.
    e.g My Mom has NOT studied a single line of astrology but with her Spiritual state, she sometimes could tell the other person's question by casually reading their hand or by merely looking into eyes. While I've studied many different so-called sciences including astrology but I usually checks those topics with her.
    Whosoever is saying that Astrology has no place in Sikhism have NOT understood the working of this place/universe. At the same time who are saying that Astrology is very good and one should very actively pursue for it are also wrong. Lucky has mentioned correctly that finding a genuine astrologer is very hard; but it doesn't mean there is none or there is nothing in astrology.
    Why Astrology is everywhere?
    Everything in this whole universe is based of the planets.
    1. Moon is the nearest planet (in astrology it is considered as planet by major systems) to Earth and one could easily see the effect of Moon on Sea levels during full moon. And our body is around 80% water. Then tell me if Moon could produce tides in the sea, then why it cannot produce effects on human body. Be practical.
    2. Even the Ida and Pingala are governed by Solar and Lunar forces. How could you say that Sikhism is against astrology.
    3. All the body organs are governed by various planets.
    4. First study astrology in full details and then you'll be start connecting the dots that sometimes you're doing the things as suggested by the plantary forces but you do it unconsciously (or say that your Guru/God are making you do that).
    5. In other to move up the Spiritual levels, there are 7/Seven steps/bomika and that reference to seven planets. Remember seven planets, seven chakra, seven, this whole play is: Seven planets handle 12 zodiac signs (3 principles * 4 elements).
    Correct statement would be Sikhs do NOT pursue astrology for the selfish means. A real Sikh should be like "Bhana mitha mane (Whatever God wills is good and accepts it)". But keep in mind that all medicines (including homeopathic, accupressure, marma, allopathy, any other energtic medicines) are also going against HIS will (or say trying to fight against your own previous karma). Also, if someone is offering you the medicine, then by refusing the medicine you're also going against HIS will. It's not black and white, it is highly complex.
    At last, paapiman, it's NOT that simple that astrology is good and one should look for good astrologers. Firstly, there are so many branches of this science: Laal/Red Kitab, Tantar/Black book, Vedic Astrology, Chaldean astrology, Palmistry, Yantars, Seals and countless other branches. On top of that it is business these days, it is very rare to find the good astrologer.
    Also, keep in mind that if a astrologer is telling you any remedy involving any bad effect on anyone, then you'll be responsible for the associated karma. But certain things like: Bury coconut or some til/seasome seed with oil etc. are supposed to have good effect because basically you're providing the food to many insects etc.
    Again, most of the time, you're bound to fail because these days most of the astrologers are into business or using some forceful black remedies; both of which will be bad for you.
    Rest is upto you. There are some Shabads which could help you if you need some support: Sankat Mochan etc. The safest bet would be Prayer from Heart.
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    Yes, both genders; in-fact every cell has both the principles. But it's the ratio. Also, a sword is NOT a sword; it DOES have consciousness. How could you claim "it does possess the divine light, it does not possess human consciousness......." . Please be informed that everything in this universe does have consciousness; even Stones does have consciousness. That's why I say, please first get all the information (what is what).
    Also, Guru is MUST if one wants to break the Ajna/3rd eye. If anyone has true love, then he/she would sacrifice the whole life for it. e.g Patanga (an insect) gets burned in the fire for its love towards it. So, it sounds like your intention to take Amrit was not too strong, not based upon true love, otherwise how could one drop the idea (which is only between One's Soul's and Guru). Amrit is a deal between One's Soul and the guide (Guru), how could someone's argument win over it.
    Kindly, do NOT convert this thread to Man -vs-Women; that's NOT the intention. Other members please share your thoughts.
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    Recently on this forum and in general view: there is always tension between the groups in regards to "If women can be part of Panj Payaras or not". Every group has its own rigid explanations for their views.
    Group-1 says that yes, women can be part of Panj payaras. Their core reason is the bani as explained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Group-2 says that no, women cannot be part of Panj payars. Their core reason is because women didn't  offer their head that day or say Guru Ji didn't ask. Some also say that women is not capable of preparing Amrit. Group-3 says that we've to follow the establised tradition and should not allow women to be part of Panj-payars but if any women is Brahmgyani, then its okay. Their core reason is that since the creation of Khalsa and all along during the times of great Saints, everyone suggested that women cannot be Panj Payaras. Now, I do NOT want to stretch this boring conversation to further but I DO want to present my personal views which seems to be opposite to the above mentioned groups at-the face value but in deeper sense it does resonate with them. So, please do NOT post same old reasons/explanations to prove your point. But I invite all memebers to please share your thoughts on this topic without indulging in baseless claims and let's have a Open Mind discussion.
    I also request everyone to carefully read the whole topic first and then send your response. Please do NOT read causally or just scan and then post the same thing which was in your head (pre-programmed).
    My personal view is: No, women cannot be part of Panj Payaras because the Amrit prepared during Sanskar Amrit is still within the sphere of "Laws of Universe" unless a Brahmgyani (any gender) is involved.
    In other words, Amrit is prepared with its roots in Duality (opposites coming together). And anything in duality needs to have opposite forces coming together: Shiva and Shakti. Shakti is represented by the Khanda/Sword/Bagauti and Shiva power needs to be in the form of 5 males (Five are required to move Seven to Twelve in Space). As this physical Amrit is NOT the real Amrit (real Amrit being Naam Amrit), therefore in order to prepare it one needs to have correct ingredients: Positive and Negative forces. One cannot prepare the strongest Amrit (which acts as initiation for Guru and will further lead to Raas) with the use of un-balanced ingredients.
    Now, why I think that Sanskar Amrit is within the Sphere of Laws: It is because:
    The 5K's (Kara, Kangha, Kachera, Kirpan, Kesh/Kesge) symbols are the physical symbols; they DO represent Spiritual purposes but still they are just physical symbols. How could we ridicule Janeu (Hindu thread) as manmat; janeu could also represent some Spiritual principle. So, how could we mock janeu but for 100% in for 5Ks as physical symbols? Guru Gobind Singh Ji choosing only men or say God only pushing man to stand for the cause DOES hold some purpose. As Guru Ji was 100% sure regarding what was written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and as per Guru Granth Sahib Ji, man and woman does have equal opportunity and rights. So, he would not go against Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In Bachittar Natak, Guru has mentioned that in His previous life (not physical though) how he once fight with the demons and won the war. This is the time when Bhagauti told Guru Ji that when He will go to Earth for the establishment of new dharma, then She would offer her services and this is the reason Khanda is used while preparing Amrit. And Panj-Payas does represent Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Gobind Singh Ji has told several times in history that He should NOT be considered God. Here I'm NOT trying to say that He was not God; I'm just trying to bring up the point that no Guru before Guru Gobind Singh Ji has said that in the same tone. He is not trying to be humble, may be He is trying to tell us something (that he indicated in His writings) Guru Gobind Singh Ji's birth and the creation of Khalsa was the requirement of those times but Guru Ji did NOT abolish the place of Saint/Sant (some call it physical Guru). e.g If you see all the yesteryear Sants after the creation of Khalsa, even though they did come under the umbrella of Khalsa but they are also the student under their respective Senior Teachers/Gurus/Sants. If the intention of any Guru (any 10 Gurus) was of to abolish the trend of physical Sant, then surely They must have provided in written format the Arths/Meanings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But They did not do that because the key to the hidden treasures of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is still with the Sants. So, wraping up I could say that: Guru Gobind Singh Ji did come for different purpose (as per the requirement of time and order of Waheguru) and fullfilled His purpose; and his purpose was not the same as that of first 5 Gurus and 9th Guru. Even 6, 7, 8th Guru Ji have not recorded Their Bani in Guru Granth Sahib Ji as They were preparing the ground for the coming of 10th Guru. Read the story of Bib Bhani. Guru Gobind Singh Ji explicitly stated many times this fact in His writings: Bachittar Natak and His other writings. It is just us (the normal people) who didn't look deep enough.
    At last, I'm NOT saying that Khalsa was that time's need and we need not take Amrit. I'm just saying that people start debating this vs that without understanding the purpose of creation of Khalsa. Sometimes in different ingredients (having different powers) are necessary to bring up the Neutral/Precious stuff. e.g It is believed that lead could be transformed into gold in alchemy.
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    das got a reaction from hsingh6 in Astrology in Gurbani?   
    The above mentioned Shabad is neither referring to eclipse nor is referring to Heart chakra. Here is the full shabad:

    ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
    ਅੰਤਰਿ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਬਦਿ  ਮਨੁ  ਮਾਨਿਆ  ਅਵਰੁ  ਨ  ਰਾਂਗਨਹਾਰਾ  ॥
    ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ  ਜੀਆ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਮਾਲੇ  ਤਿਸ  ਹੀ  ਕੀ  ਸਰਕਾਰਾ  ॥੧॥
    ਮੇਰਾ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਰਾਂਗਿ  ਘਣੌ  ਅਤਿ  ਰੂੜੌ  ॥
    ਦੀਨ  ਦਇਆਲੁ  ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ  ਮਨਮੋਹਨੁ  ਅਤਿ  ਰਸ  ਲਾਲ  ਸਗੂੜੌ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
    ਊਪਰਿ  ਕੂਪੁ  ਗਗਨ  ਪਨਿਹਾਰੀ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰਾ  ॥
    ਜਿਸ  ਕੀ  ਰਚਨਾ  ਸੋ  ਬਿਧਿ  ਜਾਣੈ  ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਗਿਆਨੁ  ਵੀਚਾਰਾ  ॥੨॥
    ਪਸਰੀ  ਕਿਰਣਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਕਮਲ  ਬਿਗਾਸੇ  ਸਸਿ  ਘਰਿ  ਸੂਰੁ  ਸਮਾਇਆ  ॥
    ਕਾਲੁ  ਬਿਧੁੰਸਿ  ਮਨਸਾ  ਮਨਿ  ਮਾਰੀ  ਗੁਰ  ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਪਾਇਆ  ॥੩॥
    ਅਤਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਰੰਗਿ  ਚਲੂਲੈ  ਰਾਤੀ  ਦੂਜਾ  ਰੰਗੁ  ਨ  ਕੋਈ  ॥
    ਨਾਨਕ  ਰਸਨਿ  ਰਸਾਏ  ਰਾਤੇ  ਰਵਿ  ਰਹਿਆ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਸੋਈ  ॥੪॥੧੫॥
    The shabad is referring to the process when "The Shabad" permanently resides in the Mind, then one tastes the real Amrit stored in the Crown Chakra. In other words, it is suggesting the last point in the journey to be outside of Time and Space. Crown Chakra is also known as the place of 1000 Suns which is so strong yet so calming that it (the light/ray) overtakes everything. The shabad has nowhere mentioned the Heart Chakra or Eclipse.
    Moreover, in reality Astronomy and Astrology are exactly the same Science (Macro/Micro/Effects) but recenty (around 16-17th century) when people started accepting more materialistic views, this Science was broken into 2 different streams: Astrology and Astronomy. It's the same way, these days there are Specialist Doctors for each organ and they just worry about their particular organ; they do NOT understand that each and every cell in this body is interrelated and interlinked and work as ONE BIG SYSTEM.
    Moreover, here are some clues to the play of 3 gunas and 5 elements in Space and Time:
    Seven is a clue for everything that happens in Time. 7 comes from 3+4 (3 gunas + 4 elements). i.e 7 Traditional planets; 7 Major Chakras; 7 Rishis, and so on. Twelve is a clue for all things that co-exist in space. 12 comes from 3*4 (play of 3 gunas with 4 basic elements in Space). These are the twelve basic points with which everything in space is connected. It is possible to find the right way by connecting the spatial relationship of everything that occurs upon the earth with twelve permanent points in space — the twelve signs of the Zodiac in the cosmos. And there is always certain relation between the numbers Seven and Twelve, and that this relation has something to do with time and space. Time is revealed according to the number Twelve. The above mentioned points are the core of Astrology. It's very easy to say but very hard to understand the play of 12*7=84.
    But at last, let me warm you that there are VERY RARE astrologers who fully understand Astrology and Astronomy in real sense but at the same time it does NOT mean that Sikhism is against Astrology. But do NOT try to find paid astrologers and do NOT try to look in Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the intention to find the reference to astrology and then proving that it is accepted in Sikhism. As I always say, this world is never Black-and-White.
    Rudolf Steiner has said this perfectly: "Humanity, is intimately connected to cosmic beings, who in turn are related to planets and stars. There is meaning in the cosmos." He rejected the Simplistic notion of the planets determining our lives and behaviour, he shows that as individuals, and with the guidance of spiritual beings, we choose an appropriate time of birth to match the destiny we are to live.
    In other words, when we reduce the systems (create Simplistic views separate from another system), then we are bound to fail and this is what is happening with Astrology these days (so-called Zodiac readings).
     
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    das got a reaction from Inderpal1994 in Amrit/Kesh and fire of Hells   
    Does it mean that tenth Guru have established an institution which will give benefit to whosoever follows it (even on physical level) but will NOT give that kind of benefit to those who do not follow them?
    Isn't this like Christianity who says that whosoever follows Jesus Christ won't have to go to Hell because Jesus have paid for their sins?
    Actually, as per my understanding, there is some truth to what pappiman has mentioned.
    e.g A person has taken Khanda Da Amrit and then did not follow anything Spititually and ended up doing lot of bad karams. Then the thing is that: His/Her Guru will not allow that person to go to Hell or will not allow the beating along the path to Dharamraj but he/she has to pay for his/her bad deeds via human birth in bad environment (but still human birth with possibility of Spiritual growth). Sometimes, Guru DOES allow that person to go to Hell or force them to take birth in animal world but Guru will always cut short his animal births because he was follower of his faith. Bottom line is: Guru will lend HIS helping hand to the SOUL who has gone astray. Persons without Guru won't have that kind of cushion.
    There are various Sakhis portraying that:
    Sakhi-1: There was a Sikh of tenth Guru who was performing the duty of Parshad distribution in the sangat. One day, another Sikh of high Spiritual came to the Sangat to get parshad; he requested parshad in hurry but the dutyman said harshly "Why you're jumping like bear?" To this the other person picked the parshad from the ground and left. Now, when the dutyman left the world, he was born as bear. But after some time, the bear's life was cut short by GuruJi; thus displaying the power of Guru.
    Also, remember, each Avatar has its own Heaven and the persons worshiping Him as God cannot go beyond the realm of that demi-God.
    But some people take it too strictly saying that as they have taken Amrit, so they won't suffer and they are bound to get benefits. It's not that simple. Mind has to be purified before one can be with HIM, but at the same time the path to real God goes via Guru (and nothing else) and if you follow Guru, then you DO have some cushion because of it.
    Think it from another point of view: What's the use of Guru if HE cannot help the Soul who has done bad deeds under the effect of Maya. But at the same time, even Guru cannot go against the law of karma but HE knows how to go around the karma for the sake of his pupil's Soul. At last, it is not black and white and cannot be explained in words.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev jee is greater than Vishnu jee/Shiv jee/Other Deities   
    Sant Baba Isher Singh Rara Sahib wale used to say: If the Guru is not-pura/complete but the student has 100% faith in his Guru that he is the God; then there are chances that student will reach higher Spiritual stages and will eventually get real Guru. On the other hand if the Guru is pura/complete/God-Himself but student does not have 100% faith on his Guru, then the student will NOT succeed. It means that Faith is more important.
    Also, why the hell you're so desperate to show the world (other religions) to counter-act their claims? The real point is: What you've achieved by following Guru Nanak Dev Ji? Think about yourself, in dargah, your Spiritual achievements will be measured and not your debating skills (debating on topics which are all illusion).
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    das got a reaction from Samarbir Singh in Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev jee is greater than Vishnu jee/Shiv jee/Other Deities   
    Okay, agreed that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was highest of the high; He is the greatest. But the real question is: Are you following Guru Ji's instructions/teachings in real sense? You're born in Sikhism and therefore its easier for you to follow Guru Ji's teachings (no resistance from society, family etc.). If you still don't follow the real core teachings of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, then having Guru Nanak Dev Ji as greatest have NO benefit to you. Think about it.
     
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Prof Darshan Promoting Meat Eating   
    Think about it deeply who ARE doing meditation/simran, is it really the taste of tongue? I don't think so, tongue does NOT enjoy. It is the Mind which enjoys the taste via the sense of taste. e.g whenever we're really very sad or depressed, then we don't really enjoy any good food.

    My take is:
    Following vegetarian diet without meditation is like putting good quality fuel in the car but not starting the car to continue the journey. We might increase the life span of the car's engine and will also get a reward from the quality controllers (Dharamraj). Another example would be what would be the use of cow (vegetarian) if she does not give milk? So, Guru Nanak Dev Ji's tuks (debate on vegetarian vs non-vegetarian) applies here as we are still in the field of Mind and therefore it does not matter if we go with Mind's one vs the another taste. To the real truth searchers it (Rewards by quality controllers) does not matter as their ultimate aim (Ek-Onkar) is above and beyond the Mind. On the other hand, if one is non-vegetarian and still do NOT do any meditation. Think about putting the waste liquid in the car. They will get punishment from the quality controllers (dharamraj). Now, let's say non-vegetarian also does the extensive meditation, then as he/she is also putting waste liquid (highly bad fuel) then his car (human body) might get low mileage and also run the risk of engine failure (death); he might not be able to complete his journey with that car (human body). If the person has insurance (Guru), then he will get another car but with high premiums. So, we can say that he is responsible for the bad fuel (bad karma) in first place and had to pay for it (in shape of high premiums). For a vegetarian person and also doing meditation, there is NO need for him to start eating meat based upon the tuks of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Here the tuks are intrepreted wrongly implying that it is okay to eat meat as long as you're on path (meditation/simran) and not indulging in debate. In this world of Kal, we are already getting lot of bad karma when we drink plain water, eat plain grain, breathing because all these things do include living beings being killed. Then if we are already in this so complex thing of karma, why to collect more explicit bad karma by eating meat (killing of animals exclusively for the taste of tongue / enjoyment of mind)? Think about it.

    At the same time, it is also true that God is beyond the karma and Guru can nullify the karma in order to provide the salvation to the Jeev. But also keep in mind that Guru comes only after one have certain good karmas acquired and if one does the bad deeds after getting the Guru, then Guru has to bear the consequences of those bad karams. You can treat this as personal experience from my past human birth in which I was indulged in meat (less) and liquor (main issue) and my Guru did mention in my dreams in that birth to stop doing that. I didn't heed to his guidance and it eventually lead to my physical death in previous birth. Now, in this birth as of now, my mind never wanted (Guru's Grace) meat and liquor even in my college life it never occurred to me to have liquor. But I do know that if I ever start having liquor then I'll be taking in either good or bad times i.e everyday. So, hale tak Guru de kirpa ha.
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Prof Darshan Promoting Meat Eating   
    To all those who support Meat Eating:

    It has been told numerous times by Ghost/Bhoots/Negative-Powers (one example of Suleman who was a Ghost but given human birth by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji) that they (Negative-Powers) are attracted (or say easy prey) to persons who are meat eaters and wine drinkers. It does mean that meat and wine does make the person spiritually less strong.

    There are many rituals in this world (e.g in Kaula and Mishra school of Tantra but NOT in Samaya school) which does use meat even for spiritual purposes but that is used for the powers that reside in the lower chakras. Basically, they are taking help of those super-natural forces to awaken the kundlini power so that it can go up and reach Trikuti. But why to take such a risky path??
    Some say Guru Ji did approve hunting along with meat eating. This is half-truth; Guru Ji did hunting; Guru Nanak did write about the debate of meat-eaters vs vegetarians. But that does not mean that we should mimic that. If we say that no Guru Ji allowed it, then Guru Ji also allowed to fight for injustice, Guru Ji also allowed to sacrifice one's whole family etc. etc. Why don't we copy that?
    One plain question: What all Spiritual Granths (including Guru Granth Sahib Ji) say about Diet: Eat Simple. Basically, we eat to live. Period. At-least I don't understand the concept of eating meat in today's environment when there are so many simple things to eat. Why you want to eat risky stuff?? Moreover, those who are deadly against the meat-eaters, keep in mind the tuks that Guru Nanak Dev Ji had for this debate and secondly, in almost 98% packaged foods available in market does have some form of animal ingredient (obviously under chemical name). But you know Kaal wants us to keep debating and forget the real purpose of this human birth.

    Bottom line is: Eat simple which is conductive to our physical body (a temple of God) and also conductive to our Spiritual progress (which is the aim of this human birth). Meat and Liquor does not seem to fit this condition.
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Astrology in Gurbani?   
    The above mentioned Shabad is neither referring to eclipse nor is referring to Heart chakra. Here is the full shabad:

    ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
    ਅੰਤਰਿ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਬਦਿ  ਮਨੁ  ਮਾਨਿਆ  ਅਵਰੁ  ਨ  ਰਾਂਗਨਹਾਰਾ  ॥
    ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ  ਜੀਆ  ਦੇਖਿ  ਸਮਾਲੇ  ਤਿਸ  ਹੀ  ਕੀ  ਸਰਕਾਰਾ  ॥੧॥
    ਮੇਰਾ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਰਾਂਗਿ  ਘਣੌ  ਅਤਿ  ਰੂੜੌ  ॥
    ਦੀਨ  ਦਇਆਲੁ  ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ  ਮਨਮੋਹਨੁ  ਅਤਿ  ਰਸ  ਲਾਲ  ਸਗੂੜੌ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
    ਊਪਰਿ  ਕੂਪੁ  ਗਗਨ  ਪਨਿਹਾਰੀ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰਾ  ॥
    ਜਿਸ  ਕੀ  ਰਚਨਾ  ਸੋ  ਬਿਧਿ  ਜਾਣੈ  ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਗਿਆਨੁ  ਵੀਚਾਰਾ  ॥੨॥
    ਪਸਰੀ  ਕਿਰਣਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਕਮਲ  ਬਿਗਾਸੇ  ਸਸਿ  ਘਰਿ  ਸੂਰੁ  ਸਮਾਇਆ  ॥
    ਕਾਲੁ  ਬਿਧੁੰਸਿ  ਮਨਸਾ  ਮਨਿ  ਮਾਰੀ  ਗੁਰ  ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਪਾਇਆ  ॥੩॥
    ਅਤਿ  ਰਸਿ  ਰੰਗਿ  ਚਲੂਲੈ  ਰਾਤੀ  ਦੂਜਾ  ਰੰਗੁ  ਨ  ਕੋਈ  ॥
    ਨਾਨਕ  ਰਸਨਿ  ਰਸਾਏ  ਰਾਤੇ  ਰਵਿ  ਰਹਿਆ  ਪ੍ਰਭੁ  ਸੋਈ  ॥੪॥੧੫॥
    The shabad is referring to the process when "The Shabad" permanently resides in the Mind, then one tastes the real Amrit stored in the Crown Chakra. In other words, it is suggesting the last point in the journey to be outside of Time and Space. Crown Chakra is also known as the place of 1000 Suns which is so strong yet so calming that it (the light/ray) overtakes everything. The shabad has nowhere mentioned the Heart Chakra or Eclipse.
    Moreover, in reality Astronomy and Astrology are exactly the same Science (Macro/Micro/Effects) but recenty (around 16-17th century) when people started accepting more materialistic views, this Science was broken into 2 different streams: Astrology and Astronomy. It's the same way, these days there are Specialist Doctors for each organ and they just worry about their particular organ; they do NOT understand that each and every cell in this body is interrelated and interlinked and work as ONE BIG SYSTEM.
    Moreover, here are some clues to the play of 3 gunas and 5 elements in Space and Time:
    Seven is a clue for everything that happens in Time. 7 comes from 3+4 (3 gunas + 4 elements). i.e 7 Traditional planets; 7 Major Chakras; 7 Rishis, and so on. Twelve is a clue for all things that co-exist in space. 12 comes from 3*4 (play of 3 gunas with 4 basic elements in Space). These are the twelve basic points with which everything in space is connected. It is possible to find the right way by connecting the spatial relationship of everything that occurs upon the earth with twelve permanent points in space — the twelve signs of the Zodiac in the cosmos. And there is always certain relation between the numbers Seven and Twelve, and that this relation has something to do with time and space. Time is revealed according to the number Twelve. The above mentioned points are the core of Astrology. It's very easy to say but very hard to understand the play of 12*7=84.
    But at last, let me warm you that there are VERY RARE astrologers who fully understand Astrology and Astronomy in real sense but at the same time it does NOT mean that Sikhism is against Astrology. But do NOT try to find paid astrologers and do NOT try to look in Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the intention to find the reference to astrology and then proving that it is accepted in Sikhism. As I always say, this world is never Black-and-White.
    Rudolf Steiner has said this perfectly: "Humanity, is intimately connected to cosmic beings, who in turn are related to planets and stars. There is meaning in the cosmos." He rejected the Simplistic notion of the planets determining our lives and behaviour, he shows that as individuals, and with the guidance of spiritual beings, we choose an appropriate time of birth to match the destiny we are to live.
    In other words, when we reduce the systems (create Simplistic views separate from another system), then we are bound to fail and this is what is happening with Astrology these days (so-called Zodiac readings).
     
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Is it a sin if we place water in some pot or jug nearby guru granth sahib ji   
    There is lot of information available in the mentioned books ranging from Health, Super-natural powers, GoldenRatio, Flying Saucers, absorbing natural powers from universe. So, I don't know what exactly you're looking for. But here is the sample from the 2 books:
    Reference: Page-93 of Living Water and Secrets of Natural Energy By Viktor Schauberger:
    If water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation known as 'colloidal', a build up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation. This form of movement is able to carry with it its own means of power generation. This principle leads logically to its application in the design of the ideal airplane or submarine. In 1943 era lot of flying saucers were designed on these principles.
    Reference: Page 65 of Sensitive Chaos The creation of Flowing Forms in Water and Air By Theodor Schwenk
    Water shaken in a vessel can be caused to move in such a way that the inner surfaces thus created all slide past each other in the moving liquid. As soon as the movement ceases, the formation of inner surfaces, and thus also the great impressionability, is arrested, and the "sense organ" closes itself. If water is shaken in this way, all the many forms of movement arise in it which we have been describing singly for the sake of ?larity. The same is true of the natural movement of water, in which also a great variety of movements combine. Not only the shaking of a container but also other kinds of movement can open up the water as a sense organ.
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    From the second reference it is quite clear why it is recommended to have the water (within the round earthen pot) near the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The reason is: When the water is in constant motion (vortexes are created no matter how slow the motion is) and from within the pores of clay pot Air (another natural force) interacts with water and thus water acting as the Sense Organ and retaining/locking the environment in itself.
    So, prefered and correct way to place water near Sri Guru Granth Sahib is: Put the water in Round Earthen pot and do NOT try to put support to pot. The earthen pot will give natural motion and thus create the water to sense organ of the universe and the Bani uttered will be stored in the water and thus could be tagged as Amrit.
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    das got a reaction from Sat1176 in Navel displacement - Dharan   
    Dharan is also known by Solar Plexus. I personally found that the best option is to use the Vacuum Method via "Nabhi Pump". But there are couple of other techniques which might be useful in your case:
    Look for "How to fix Solar Plexus" section in this page: http://satgur.net/HealthIssue/Detail/22
     
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Why Sikhi failed to spread   
    Isn't this because we've tried to trap Sikhi in a box and not understood the real thing? Haven't we reduced Sikhi to grow hair and Amrit (sanskar)? or may be it's just the effect of Mind/Kaal because it is said in Bhagat Kabir's Anurag Sagar that whenever any Saint/Guru will come to earth for the betterment of mankind, then Kaal will try everything to derail that stream....
     
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    das reacted to Lucky in Discussion on this Gurbani Pankti ?   
    Waheguru
     
    We can discuss this pangti or even the many more that are similar in Raag Gauri Cheti.
    Gauri Cheti instructs us about ALL the different things that we go looking and asking for. Coincidentallly, you are doing exactly this with your own question??......what??
    Yes,..you have fallen into the chase of our jumping mind which is "always" trying to run in different directions to find solutions itself whilst at the same time, it will disregard Guru's Gurmat..
     
    Your question is what I usually refer to as  "jumping the gun" .like when our mind tries jumping to a solution without paying attention to careful detail.
    Anyhow, here's my understanding and answer to your question............
    ...... if you look into the pangi carefully, you will notice that Guruji is actually telling you NOT go looking for mantars!
     
    Let's have a look at the 2 pangti's of this verse to see if you understand what I mean and if you buy it or not.
     
    Ang 156
    ਗਉੜੀ  ਚੇਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
    Ga▫oṛī cẖeṯī mėhlā 1.
    Gauree Chaytee, First Mehl:
    ਅਉਖਧ  ਮੰਤ੍ਰ  ਮੂਲੁ  ਮਨ  ਏਕੈ  ਜੇ  ਕਰਿ  ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ  ਚਿਤੁ  ਕੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥
    A▫ukẖaḏẖ manṯar mūl man ekai je kar ḏariṛ cẖiṯ kījai re.
    O mind, there is only the One medicine, mantra and healing herb - center your consciousness firmly on the One Lord.
    ਜਨਮ  ਜਨਮ  ਕੇ  ਪਾਪ  ਕਰਮ  ਕੇ  ਕਾਟਨਹਾਰਾ  ਲੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥੧॥
    Janam janam ke pāp karam ke kataṇhārā lījai re. ||1||
    Take to the Lord, the Destroyer of the sins and karma of past incarnations. ||1|| 
     
    I know that the English translation isn't precise, but it seems to be a little extra and using words not included in the original. Maybe the intention was that it may help us feel and understand Guru Nanak ji's message?... (I've no idea) .  I think that the off-tangent English translation may be a little more explanatory for doo-daahs like me.
    I'm just going to make note of the pangti's 3 mentions of "medicine", "mantra" and "healing herb" and try to differentiate, so that we can be on the same page.
    Aukadh means to us a variety of 'consumed' prescription medicines let's say...like some capsules/tablets etc.. which are consumed on the advice of a practitioner. In my opinion, I think it's easier to say that the mention of 'medicine' in the translation can be referenced to some physical or acknowledged symptoms that one may experience like a pain, discomfort or weakness etc... 
    Then, on the other hand, we have our problems and pains that are not medical, but are about worry, anxiety, family, relationship, etc.....the usual crappy bothersome ones that deprive our sleep and disrupt our relaxed and calm states.. For these, we go looking for a different kind of remedy..--> the fields of jantar mantars and all that.  AND Yes, Guru Nanak ji is referring to the variety of different mantars that can be prescribed.....like the mantar for this and the mantar for that, .. and different mantars for different people in the family...etc. ..
    Lastly, the mention of "healing herb" ,which I think (I may be wrong!),... is referenced by the translator to distinguish it from healing applications like cream and ointments.  Prescribed herbs and plants that are applied directly to problematic body area like skin, muscle rubs, eye infections and all alike.
     
    Guru Nanak ji is telling is that we don't have to go an play some lottery luck to get the right single curing medicine, mantra or topical med.... but for ALL the problems that our mind may experience,  we need ONLY the ONE-SINGLE name of the ONE-ALMIGHTY.. This name, as per Guru Nanak teachings can be allah, ram, har, kudrat or whatever you refer to him as.  It doesn't matter whether a mantar means ram or har, because Akaal purakh doesn't need a name to label him. Gurbani tells us that even if you write a scribe with all the possible names for him: it could never be long enough to do any justice and the scriber will just regret.
    So, you did exactly what the pangti tells you not to do. Your minds reaction was to find that correct mantar to help heal yourself from everything.. Guru Nanak ji is saying that "You only have to FOCUS your chit(consciousness) towards the ONE Lord"  To do this then, you may find some mantar helpful. Mantar can be mool mantar, waheguru jap, har har, ram ram, ..anything...   It's just that as per Sikh maryada, we have a designated "waheguru" mantar. This mantar helps keep the uniformity amongst us Sikhs. Even in Guru Nanak ji's time people would claim that their God or their devi/devta was better than the other's.  The last thing we need in today's age is further foolish claims that "my mantra is better than theirs"
    The pangti says to "Darir chit kijai" to "Darir" and make your consciousness "pakkah" and permanent in the ONE lord, and him only.
     
    Going further to the 2nd line
    ਅਉਖਧ  ਮੰਤ੍ਰ  ਮੂਲੁ  ਮਨ  ਏਕੈ  ਜੇ  ਕਰਿ  ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ  ਚਿਤੁ  ਕੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥
    A▫ukẖaḏẖ manṯar mūl man ekai je kar ḏariṛ cẖiṯ kījai re.
    O mind, there is only the One medicine, mantra and healing herb - center your consciousness firmly on the One Lord.
     
    ਜਨਮ  ਜਨਮ  ਕੇ  ਪਾਪ  ਕਰਮ  ਕੇ  ਕਾਟਨਹਾਰਾ  ਲੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥੧॥
    Janam janam ke pāp karam ke kataṇhārā lījai re. ||1||
    Take to the Lord, the Destroyer of the sins and karma of past incarnations. ||1|| 
    I tend to see it as what it tells us directly. -That the paaps and sins from all our previous janams and the paaps from the past in this lifetime can also be wiped if we darir our consciousness and make it 'pakkah' in the single Almighty Akaal Purakh.  That itself is ANOTHER healing and aukhaad we need but we never ask for. We only ask for the medicine-dwaiyee, mantar and healing balms mentioned in the 1st pangtee....the  "needs" our mind tells us for the Here and Now. However, we are carrying this heavy weight of bad deeds from janam janam-lifetimes.
     
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    das got a reaction from jaikaara in Am I blessed? Mona singh   
    Yes, you're blessed but at the same time you've to play your part in this ongoing movie/game/life. Being blessed is different than taking the advantage of being blessed.
    I'm not suggesting to put extra focus on worldly things; just put the focus on Simran and take the life as it comes; do whatever you've been assigned to....be it job, or whatever. In other words, let the Waheguru be your driver. I'm saying this because at one point in time, I was feeling the same. The more I feel/desire/wish/want to be away from the worldly duties, the more I feel depressed and lost peace of mind; But as soon as I left the desire to be attain something or run away from something, magically the peace of mind returned.
    In other words, just keep enjoying Simran, and learn to see ALL tasks as given by your Commander/Friend/Guru, then you will shine. Just leave the desire to be desire-less.
    e.g when you enjoy your Simran during Amrit vele, did you breathing disturb you? Obviously not, in-fact it helps. It is because breathing has become part of us and has never stopped us from doing anything. Same way, change the point-of-view and see every task as the God given and just move with the flow. Enjoy the Present, CONCENTRATE ON THE PRESENT. If you follow HIM, then worldly things will follow you, don't worry; just play your character joyfully and not by constantly complaining.
    I know, I know it is very easy to write but very hard to practice. But that's the play!
    I love this song from late 1970s:
    Aanewala Pal Janewala Hai--------------------------(The moment that is to arrive, is about to pass by,)
    Ho Sake Toh Isame Jindagee Bita Do-------------(If you can, in it, live your life…)
    Pal Jo Yeh Janewala Hai Ho Ho---------------------(This moment, that is about to pass by.)
    Ek Bar Yu Milee Masum See Kalee-----------------(Once (I) met this innocent blossom)
    Khilte Hue Kahaan Khushbash Mein Chali.-------(Blooming, (she) said, I am leaving happy.)
    Dekha To Yahin Hai, Dhundha To Nahin Hai,----(When I looked, it was right there , When I searched, it is not there,)
    Pal Jo Yeh Jaanewala Hai-----------------------------(This moment, that is about to pass by.)
    Ek Baar Waqt Se Lamha Gira Kahin----------------(Once, a moment fell from (the grasp of) time somewhere)
    Wahaan Dastan Mili, Lamha Kahin Nahin---------(There I found this legend, The moment was nowhere,)
    Thoda Sa Hasaake, Thoda Sa Rulaake------------(Making you laugh a little, Making you cry a little)
    Pal Ye Bhi Jaanewala Hai------------------------------(This moment is also about to pass by)
     
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    das got a reaction from Indy06 in Am I blessed? Mona singh   
    Yes, you're blessed but at the same time you've to play your part in this ongoing movie/game/life. Being blessed is different than taking the advantage of being blessed.
    I'm not suggesting to put extra focus on worldly things; just put the focus on Simran and take the life as it comes; do whatever you've been assigned to....be it job, or whatever. In other words, let the Waheguru be your driver. I'm saying this because at one point in time, I was feeling the same. The more I feel/desire/wish/want to be away from the worldly duties, the more I feel depressed and lost peace of mind; But as soon as I left the desire to be attain something or run away from something, magically the peace of mind returned.
    In other words, just keep enjoying Simran, and learn to see ALL tasks as given by your Commander/Friend/Guru, then you will shine. Just leave the desire to be desire-less.
    e.g when you enjoy your Simran during Amrit vele, did you breathing disturb you? Obviously not, in-fact it helps. It is because breathing has become part of us and has never stopped us from doing anything. Same way, change the point-of-view and see every task as the God given and just move with the flow. Enjoy the Present, CONCENTRATE ON THE PRESENT. If you follow HIM, then worldly things will follow you, don't worry; just play your character joyfully and not by constantly complaining.
    I know, I know it is very easy to write but very hard to practice. But that's the play!
    I love this song from late 1970s:
    Aanewala Pal Janewala Hai--------------------------(The moment that is to arrive, is about to pass by,)
    Ho Sake Toh Isame Jindagee Bita Do-------------(If you can, in it, live your life…)
    Pal Jo Yeh Janewala Hai Ho Ho---------------------(This moment, that is about to pass by.)
    Ek Bar Yu Milee Masum See Kalee-----------------(Once (I) met this innocent blossom)
    Khilte Hue Kahaan Khushbash Mein Chali.-------(Blooming, (she) said, I am leaving happy.)
    Dekha To Yahin Hai, Dhundha To Nahin Hai,----(When I looked, it was right there , When I searched, it is not there,)
    Pal Jo Yeh Jaanewala Hai-----------------------------(This moment, that is about to pass by.)
    Ek Baar Waqt Se Lamha Gira Kahin----------------(Once, a moment fell from (the grasp of) time somewhere)
    Wahaan Dastan Mili, Lamha Kahin Nahin---------(There I found this legend, The moment was nowhere,)
    Thoda Sa Hasaake, Thoda Sa Rulaake------------(Making you laugh a little, Making you cry a little)
    Pal Ye Bhi Jaanewala Hai------------------------------(This moment is also about to pass by)
     
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    das reacted to Xylitol in Am I blessed? Mona singh   
    WJKKWJKF
    You have been blessed and Guru ji is waking you up to the Truth. Be grateful and keep up on this path. Remember, our motivation goes up and down in life, taking the shelter of the sadh sangat is very important. 
    As for your worldly peers, they will not take the things they gain in this world to the next world. You will take your seva and simran with you to the next world, unless you finish the game in this world! It still is important to work and support ourselves though. Otherwise if someone else has to support us they take seva from us. I know it's probably the least attractive thing, but that's also part of this game. If I was in your shoes I would  try to do my kirt kamai (job) while trying to increase my simran as time goes on. Giving dasvand also helps on this path. 
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    das reacted to Xylitol in Sankat Mochan   
    everyone is at a different spiritual state. most people are not yet spiritually ready to accept bhana so the ability to improve their daily life situation through Bani helps them to come to a space where they can focus more time on Naam, which enables them to reach that state of being where they can accept Bhana. It also increases faith in Sikhi as they see the results of the jaap in their daily life. 
    This is similar to how people go to sants and ask for worldly thing. many times the sants help them remove those worldly distractions by helping them take care of the problem. this makes it easier to live near the core of Sikhi. 
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    das reacted to kdsingh80 in Question about GGS   
    Because human mind love rituals ,no matter how much you ask them not to do it they will create rituals of their own.
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    das got a reaction from Soulfinder in Advice Confused Gurdwara   
    As both Xylitol and Chatanga1 have mentioned the importance of good Sangat, and therefore I would like to expand on that.
    I personally have felt the same as you (mrhsinghk) but I was guided by the guides about the spiritual significance of the good sangat. You can do the experiment as follows:
    * Go to any Live concert of any singer/comedian/performer/sports/anyevent and enjoy the performance LIVE. At the same time record the entire performance.
    Once at home, try to play the same recording event. Do you feel the difference? If you've ever attended a Live concert you will immediately say: Watching and Listening Live is another world, especially if music is involved. Do you know why? Just because of the collective consciousness of the number of people. In Live concert, the Raw emotion of many people are acting as one. It simply means that humans have the capability to tune in their consciousness with another and both gets the benefit.
    But again, the requirement is Good Sangat which could also be found in the company of more than one at home; in-fact, the best company/sangat is with oneself (with our own Atma). But there are very few who could enjoy the sangat of self/atma, but rest of us are better off finding a place where there is maximum potential of finding a good sangat and Gurdwara is the best place (relatively) with the max probability of finding a higher level spiritual person with whom we can tune in our consciousness in the huzoore of Maharaj.
    At the end, it's always nice to hear the things which subtly we want to hear, but that may or may not be the truth and could be a mere illusion.
    das
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