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Great article by Kamalroop Singh on this issue- 
source: http://akalinihang.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/some-ad-hoc-comments-about-recent.html
Some ad hoc comments about the recent events surrounding Sikh Marriages
The message of Guru Nanak is to accept all religions and that the Divine is one and the same for all. The Gurdwara is open for all to come and visit, and partake in the Guru's free kitchen and meditation/prayer. The Sikh scripture is not prescriptive, and to find information about marriage rites you have to look at the Rahit-name, i.e. codes of conduct. The primary scripture of the Sikh canon is the Guru Granth Sahib which is devotional, it does not describe in detail how a Sikh should conduct oneself in social life. Therefore, secondary scripture, the Rahit-name were composed in the times of Guru Gobind Singh to fulfil the needs for the emerging community, some three hundred years after Guru Nanak. We need to consider why these injunctions were not bound with the Guru Granth Sahib? I would argue that any code of conduct, like any law, is open to interpretation based on the circumstances. Therefore, these laws related to the Sikhs temporal life, were not fit to be bound with the spiritual content found in the Guru Granth Sahib. The Rahit-name are mostly referred to by Khalsa Sikhs, most Sehajdhari Sikhs will know very little about them, and generally will only accept what is written in Guru Granth Sahib.
The practices of prima noctas by the Moghuls and foeticide by some sections of Indian Society, as well as no widow remarriage, and Sati, led to the chivalrous codes, one of which was to protect women. The community was small and thus had to ensure its survival. The Rahit-name clearly state a Sikh should marry a Sikh, and if someone wishes to marry a Sikh they should embrace Sikhism. A Sikh is defined as someone who believes and practices the teachings of all Ten Gurus, and the Guru Granth Sahib. Some would argue that as Sikhism is against empty ritualism, for a non-Sikh to be married before Guru Granth Sahib when she/he has no intent to follow it, is an empty ritual. The Prem Sumarag Granth circa 1700 clearly states a Sikh should marry his son or daughter within the Sikh community, after taking amrit. So, in actual fact the Sikh marriage rite of Anand Karaj was only prescribed for Khalsa Sikhs (which is still the practice at Takht Hazur Sahib, Nanded), while Sehajdhari Sikhs would have had some sort of marriage blessing in the Gurdwara. We must also bare in mind that to mingle with killers of daughters (female infanticide) and of wives is a serious kurehat, or major break from the Khalsa code, but those who marry their daughters to a non Sikh is a minor transgression or tankha.
Nowadays, we can see young Sikh males dressing up as a Singh and keeping their beard for the day and carrying a sword, and then later on shave their beard. It was probably for this reason that this injunction of being amritdhari for marriage was made. Some Khalsa Sikhs argue that Sehajdhari Sikhs should not be allowed to have an Anand Karaj. This change in tradition occurred the time of British with the introduction of the Anand Marriage Act in 1909, which was adopted by the Singh Sabha. It states:
‘3. Exemption of certain marriages from Act: Nothing in this Act shall apply to -- (a) any marriage between persons not professing the Sikh religion, or’
Since then the position of women has changed worldwide and in the West women are economically independent and have much more freedom. In our secular societies, religion plays a very little role in most peoples lives, and in the West there have been increasing numbers of mixed marriages. Which led to the Akal Takht Sahib issuing a ‘Sandesh’ or advice, which some may argue is different from a ‘Hukam’ or encyclic edict. This ‘Sandesh’ states that to be a Sikh the person must have Singh or Kaur in their name. Sikhs do this at birth, but in reality this title is only officially given to Amritdhari Sikhs. The Sikh Rahit Maryada (1955) states:
Article XVIII - Anand Sanskar (Lit. Joyful Ceremony)
a. A Sikh man and woman should enter wedlock without giving thought to the prospective spouse’s caste and descent.
b. A Sikh’s daughter must be married to a Sikh.
c. A Sikh’s marriage should be solemnized by Anand marriage rites.
k. Persons professing faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by the Anand Karaj ceremony.
Point A is not adhered to as many Sikhs marry within their caste. Point B is interesting to note that it is about a daughter rather than a son. Point C is also interesting as this deviates away from traditional Rahitname.
The issue behind the protests is that those individuals, who are predominantly male, see these marriages as the loss of a member of the Sikh community, to another. It would be interesting to find out if they have protested at the weddings of Sikh males, with non-Sikh females. This group has employed the Rahitname to support their protests, and seem to have coaching on tactics to employ against the police also. One of the Committee members discussed the issues with the group who said ‘ We are only following the maryada (injunctions) of Guru Gobind Singh, to which the committee member replied you know your Pita ji, but not your Baba, Guru Nanak then.’.
An interesting debate was between the Hundal brothers, Jagraj Hundal and Sunny Hundal. Jagraj Singh is a Khalsa Sikh and runs ‘Basics Of Sikhi,’ and Sunny is a Sehajdhari Sikh and is a journalist. Sunny labelled this emerging group protesting at mixed marriages as the Khaliban, or the Sikh Taliban, which Jagraj Singh considers unfair, as they haven’t committed any act on level with the Taliban to date. However, Sunny’s argument is that if left unchecked, this type of ideology could one day lead to more dangerous forms of extremism.
Perhaps, a good way of reaching common ground is perhaps to introduce a Sikh Marriage Blessing or prayer for any couple.
Kamalroop Singh
 
Sikh Marriage Act 1909
 
Prem Sumarag Granth (Circa 1700), see JPS 15 for the dating of this manuscript. Sikh Rehit Marayada SGPC.
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wedding-between-sikh-bride-and-nonsikh-groom-stopped-by-thugs-at-london-temple-10450476.html
 
 
 
 
 
 

You have to remember the vast majority are 'culturally Sikh', especially those who would marry into another community. 
I think to them, the 'ceremonies' they witness growing up are just that - ceremonies. I don't think they see any deeper significance than that. I don't think they link them to any spiritual notions. 
On the other hand, Singh Sabha Southall are a disgrace for allowing it to happen in the first place. What's the deal? 
If the bloke was a sullah would they have allowed it? Did those hogis go into bumlick mode because the groom was a gora or something?
I thought the Singh Sabha brigade prided themselves on following Akal Takhat edicts? 
It's comical: the same people who go mental and start fighting over having tables and chairs in a langar hall allow this to happen.

Viyakaran is like a fishing net. The deeper your understanding, the wider the net.
But do you really think that you could make a net big enough to cover the entire ocean(Gurbani)?

Everyone knows the Earth is flat. ....and the moon is made of cheese!

Gurbani is the Highest like you say and that is what you should always stick with as primary.
I agree with what you say about  Man=Woman, All is One...but sadly, we have Sikhs that can influence huge people with their own interpretations of gurbani, usually to suit their own agendas.
Gurbani is the Ultimate TRUTH.  period!... Therefore, if someone distorts it and says that this means that and that means this, but you personally find some sort of contradiction with gurmat.... then you will need to dig for the answer yourself and find the real Truth.
Basically, if Gurbani is TRUTH, then it is IMPOSSBLE for it to contradict itself because TRUTH can NEVER CONTRADICT.
The example you mention of woman worshipping man is from a gurbani interpretation. However, it clearly contradicts Guru Nanak ji's Philosophy. Therefore, the interpretation is clearly wrong and misunderstood and we should make it our own duty as Sikhs to find the Truth. Remember, the Truth is within us once you step outside your MIND.
 
 

Gyan Jot
 

Come on! It's akalpurkh. You know "anek hai, phir ek hai..."

Holy! Ancient Indians also wore turbans and
And

Interesting links:
Baudhāyana, (fl. c. 800 BCE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudhayana
Indian writings talk about pythagorean theorem way before Pythagoras (c. 570 BC – c. 495 BC)



I am guessing Pythagoras was inspired by Indians quite a bit, and he took a part of our culture with him to Greece.

I was having a quick look through Panth Parkash, and I noticed a chapter where Guru Sahib asks the Khalsa, which lands they want to rule, and Guru Sahib will bless them with that rule. The Khalsa would only commit themsleves to Panjab, and were worried about expanding their domains into regions which were far away. Guru Sahib said that Panjabi Sikhs will only keep Sikhi in Panjab, but it would be the duty of Sikhs from other places who would keep Sikhi going there. Seems to tie in with why Sikh never really developed strongly beyond Panjab, and how also, Panjabi Sikhs haven't taken much notice of Sikhs outside of Panjab until very recently.

Interesting. Surely the reason that (espeically) 1st and 10th Guru travelled so far, and established Gurdwaras in these places is that one day, Sikhi will spread far. Maybe now we don't have free access to Gurdwaras in Pakistan for example, but in the future, the situation will somehow be very different,

If caste is your job...then my caste is:
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If he even lays a finger on your mother or grand mother, beat him within an inch of his life!!!!!!!!!
After Guru Parmeshwar, worship your mother. Honestly, beat him, until either his face breaks or your fist breaks.

Bhul chuk maaf

I have never understood how doing eyebrows makes anyone look more beautiful.

Where is neo?

From Sikhism point of view almost every girl is Adharmi because they do waxing and eyebrows.I was shocked to see some profiles mentioning girls as Amritdhari but still their eyebrows clearly looked shaped.This is one of main reason Most profiles mention non Amritdhari Guys

Who cares....you don't have to, we will continue believing raagmala.
 
Crystal

https://es.scribd.com/mobile/document/59659558/Significance-of-Rosary-in-Sikhism

I'm sure that NO ONE is insinuating that a women cannot wear a dastar, are they?

triangle worshippers

I don't know about any of you, but when I first came across ''Pythagoras'' whilst being taught a2+b2=c2................I thought that my teacher said ''pai'' Thagoras as in 'Bhai Thagoras',.......so I assumed that he was a Bhai saab called 'Thagoras' !!!!

There are plenty walking around in a three piece suit

Coming back to the topic at hand, try to attend the jaap programs. If you cannot, please do your own individual ardas as part of your nitnem.