Mooorakh

Bravo Guest Prabhtej Jee.
In your quote above in black, is in fact the simplest secret of God realization, if only any such lover of His could apply it practically in their daily lives.

@HisServant welcome back again and thanks for updating. I was wondering where did you disappear to. Its been amazing to see your exponential progress from a beginner to this...Its inspiring so please post from time to time. 
@Sat1176@Lucky How are my veerjis doing? I know you guys used to share your avastha/experiences in the beginning a lot, but you have also gone quiet. Please do share from time to time, so we can have an idea about next stages/avasthas.
Wjkk Wjkf!

yaar tusi te bade gusse plus jaldi vich lagde ho?  I told you I didn't understand it then .. It's a matter of practice. Of experience. It's Not the matter of explainations... Ok tell me something I was hungry I ate something filling I am satisfied now, if a guest comes to me and ask me how did your tummy get satisfied by what you ate. I don't know what to tell him. All I can tell him is I was hungry. I got food. It  satisfied me. But how? I have no clue.. That's how its meant to be. Earth is round. It revolves around the Sun but why nd how? I don't know.. 
As you progress in Bhakti you cross few hurdles and move further in Stages- avasthas. You are right. I don't have answers. I am no gyaani but this forum I am aware, has those brilliant diamonds. Be humble. Keep walking.. You will feel those avasthaas yourself.. If you r keen in getting answers you WILL get them. Bani certifies that. Turde ko turda mile urde ko urda

Shabad Hazaare are the shabads - the letters of love written by Guru Arjan Dev ji when he was sent away by Guru Ramdas Sahib to a relative's wedding and ordered not to return unless called. They depict the utmost love and " tarap" he had for His 'Guru Pita' - it is also said that a single shabad of this bani is equivalent to hazaar Jaap of a mantra - THE POWER OF LOVE - so one path is equal to recital of whole Guru Granth Sahib Ji......stories apart.
. if you feel the love in each shabad - you read it once and those shabads just don't leave you the whole day - they keep on wandering inside your head all the time and what's better than singing Mera Mann loche Gur Darsan taayi, bilap kare chatrik ki nyaayi...
Meherwaan Sahib Mera meherwaan..
Mere Laal jiyo tera ant naa jaana...
Mann mander tann ves kalander ghat hi teerath naava .. sahibaaa
you just fall in love as you read them and instill them inside you. I read them as I am reminded of them .. all the time. Anytime.
BTW ... This Bani is the part of morning nitnem in Nanaksar maryaada. 
Happy chanting
Waheguru!
 
 

Brother Guru ka Daas, 
who says Waheguru has not warned us and also given us the method or technique to get out of this mayavee painful creation.
Our current situation is like someone caught drowning  in the mud, and when a passerby sees him, extends his arm to pull him out, then the one drowning asks questions such as : how am I here? Or who are you, and why do you want to take me out? We may laugh at these questions, but that is our reality. 
Our priority now is to get ourselves saved and not waste the time foolishly, we can get the answers once outside.
The fact is also, that we do not learn even from the mistakes in our present life, so what guarantee is there that we will not continue making those same and more mistakes in past lives for which we are trapped here. 
Also, it is not only the awareness of our mistakes which will prevent us from incurring in them, it is more to it, we have to hold on the strong hand of Guru Jee to be pulled out, rest assured that we have not done so in our past lives that is why we are still in the wheel of 84 or endless cycles of births and deaths.
In the following 2 verses, Guru Jee in clear and simple words, tells us in short how to get ourselves saved and return back to our Nijh Ghar in Sach Khand, in the lap of Sachay Patshah Waheguru Akal Purukh.
 (865-6)
ramat raam janam maran nivaarai.
Uttering the Lord's Name, birth and death are finished.
(865-6)
uchrat raam bhai paar utaarai.
Repeating the Lord's Name, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean.
Stay blessed.
SSA

Every other thing apart from only one Him is a trap.
One does not get spiritually enlightened at particular planes, it is with our constant association with the Truth of Nam, through simran that we get enlightened throughly.
Do not expect much, only wish strongly to be able to receive His meher/kirpa in order to merge in Him, for until He Himself pulls us out, and we hold on tightly to Him only, with love and devotion,  we can never ever acheive anything, in terms of our union with Him.
 

I think simran is remembering god; thinking about him. Simran can be translated to meditation (i.e. thinking deeply about something).
I heard in giani Thakur Singh ji's Katha that sants, etc. sit at night for 10-15 mins before jaap and observe their mind. Then they begin jaap. U can try doing that to still ur mind.
I think the amount of time it will take u to still ur mind comes down to the amount of love, determination and motivation you have inside u. I would personally advise u to stay away from watching bad things on tv such as: movies, tv serial, etc. News r fine but listen to Katha and kirtan to keep yourself motivated and determined. Just listen to the gurmantar as u recite it, filtering all the bad thoughts by focusing on the shabad. If u get bad thoughts don't follow them just let them pass.

Please don’t try and put negative ideas into peoples head. If someone during abhiyaas someone encounters something negative let them state else it’s just speculation on our part. I would say to everyone remain positive until you personally encounter something which frightens you. These days there are so many Gurmukhs one can consult so no need to worry.

Waheguru Ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh all
I am sorry but i don't agree to the sounds being negative - Gurumukhs always believe in "sab Gobind hai" they don't find any thing negative and are always positive- Nanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas 
Only a person walking on the path of bhakti hears these sounds, if they would have been negative or from hell( lol) they would be common among all Indian politicians and so on..  as for body being paralysed that happens every time one tends to enter sunn. -i am sure  that's common among abhiyaasis ( haina @Lucky @Sat1176 @HisServant veerji . That happens as we put all our attention to the mind;(our concentration gets accumulated at one place) and takes us a considerable amount of effort to bring it back to the body, there's this paralysed feeling till then.. its Samadhi state i guess.
 
 
 

Waheguru Ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh all
I am sorry but i don't agree to the sounds being negative - Gurumukhs always believe in "sab Gobind hai" they don't find any thing negative and are always positive- Nanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas 
Only a person walking on the path of bhakti hears these sounds, if they would have been negative or from hell( lol) they would be common among all Indian politicians and so on..  as for body being paralysed that happens every time one tends to enter sunn. -i am sure  that's common among abhiyaasis ( haina @Lucky @Sat1176 @HisServant veerji . That happens as we put all our attention to the mind;(our concentration gets accumulated at one place) and takes us a considerable amount of effort to bring it back to the body, there's this paralysed feeling till then.. its Samadhi state i guess.
 
 
 

Waheguru Ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh all
I am sorry but i don't agree to the sounds being negative - Gurumukhs always believe in "sab Gobind hai" they don't find any thing negative and are always positive- Nanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas 
Only a person walking on the path of bhakti hears these sounds, if they would have been negative or from hell( lol) they would be common among all Indian politicians and so on..  as for body being paralysed that happens every time one tends to enter sunn. -i am sure  that's common among abhiyaasis ( haina @Lucky @Sat1176 @HisServant veerji . That happens as we put all our attention to the mind;(our concentration gets accumulated at one place) and takes us a considerable amount of effort to bring it back to the body, there's this paralysed feeling till then.. its Samadhi state i guess.
 
 
 

Waheguru Ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh all
I am sorry but i don't agree to the sounds being negative - Gurumukhs always believe in "sab Gobind hai" they don't find any thing negative and are always positive- Nanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas 
Only a person walking on the path of bhakti hears these sounds, if they would have been negative or from hell( lol) they would be common among all Indian politicians and so on..  as for body being paralysed that happens every time one tends to enter sunn. -i am sure  that's common among abhiyaasis ( haina @Lucky @Sat1176 @HisServant veerji . That happens as we put all our attention to the mind;(our concentration gets accumulated at one place) and takes us a considerable amount of effort to bring it back to the body, there's this paralysed feeling till then.. its Samadhi state i guess.
 
 
 

A very similar thing has happened to me a couple times over the past few weeks, my body is fully asleep but I am waken up by a super loud tone, any clarification would be greatly appreciate 

The sounds have been on and off since last few months but have been more noticeable again. Last night had an interesting experience. I slept late than usual. Woke up in the middle of night, was half asleep. Body was numb and still but was half awake. The sounds got really loud and sounded like a very high voltage, not sure how long it lasted. Was trying to merge myself in that sound. The experience was neither blissful nor painful. Also woke up in middle of a dream and noticed myself saying wahe guru , maybe I was scared.  The sound looked similar to the below video and got really loud and faster  Anyone hears a similar sound to high voltage like below?
 

Waheguru ji.         
 
ਬਹੁਤ ਦੁਖਦਾਈ ਖਬਰ-ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਸੀਂਗੜੇ ਨਾਨਕਸਰ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਕਿਸਾਨ ਧਰਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਗੋਲੀ ਮਾਰ ਲਈ ਅਤੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਚਲਾਣਾ ਕਰ ਗਏ| ਆਪਣੇ ਆਖਰੀ ਨੋਟ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਹ ਲਿੱਖ ਕੇ ਗਏ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਤੋਂ ਕਿਸਾਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਦਰਦ ਹੋਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ  🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
ਹੋਰ ਕਿੰਨੀਆਂ ਕੁ ਜਾਨਾਂ ਲੈਣਗੇ ਇਹ ਕਾਤਿਲ ਨਵੇਂ ਖੇਤੀ ਆਰਡੀਨੈਂਸ ਤੇ ਬੇਦਰਦ ਸਰਕਾਰ |
ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਆਤਮਿਕ ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ ਲਈ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਕਰਿਓ ਤੇ ਉਮੀਦ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਕੁਰਬਾਨੀ ਰੰਗ ਲਿਆਵੇਗੀ |
बहुत दुखद समाचार - बाबा राम सिंह जी सिंगरा नानकसर ने किसान धरने में खुद को गोली मार ली और मर गए।  अपने अंतिम नोट में, उन्होंने लिखा है कि किसानों का दर्द मुझसे देखा नहीं जा सकता है
ये हत्यारे नए कृषि अध्यादेशों कितने और जीवन लेंगे?
#farmersprotest #babaramsinghji
 
Source: https://www.facebook.com/323263358019596/posts/1337952329884022/
 
 
 

Waheguru ji.         
 
ਬਹੁਤ ਦੁਖਦਾਈ ਖਬਰ-ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਸੀਂਗੜੇ ਨਾਨਕਸਰ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਕਿਸਾਨ ਧਰਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਗੋਲੀ ਮਾਰ ਲਈ ਅਤੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਚਲਾਣਾ ਕਰ ਗਏ| ਆਪਣੇ ਆਖਰੀ ਨੋਟ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਹ ਲਿੱਖ ਕੇ ਗਏ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਤੋਂ ਕਿਸਾਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਦਰਦ ਹੋਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ  🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
ਹੋਰ ਕਿੰਨੀਆਂ ਕੁ ਜਾਨਾਂ ਲੈਣਗੇ ਇਹ ਕਾਤਿਲ ਨਵੇਂ ਖੇਤੀ ਆਰਡੀਨੈਂਸ ਤੇ ਬੇਦਰਦ ਸਰਕਾਰ |
ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਆਤਮਿਕ ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ ਲਈ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਕਰਿਓ ਤੇ ਉਮੀਦ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਕੁਰਬਾਨੀ ਰੰਗ ਲਿਆਵੇਗੀ |
बहुत दुखद समाचार - बाबा राम सिंह जी सिंगरा नानकसर ने किसान धरने में खुद को गोली मार ली और मर गए।  अपने अंतिम नोट में, उन्होंने लिखा है कि किसानों का दर्द मुझसे देखा नहीं जा सकता है
ये हत्यारे नए कृषि अध्यादेशों कितने और जीवन लेंगे?
#farmersprotest #babaramsinghji
 
Source: https://www.facebook.com/323263358019596/posts/1337952329884022/
 
 
 

Waheguru ji.         
 
ਬਹੁਤ ਦੁਖਦਾਈ ਖਬਰ-ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਸੀਂਗੜੇ ਨਾਨਕਸਰ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਕਿਸਾਨ ਧਰਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਗੋਲੀ ਮਾਰ ਲਈ ਅਤੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਚਲਾਣਾ ਕਰ ਗਏ| ਆਪਣੇ ਆਖਰੀ ਨੋਟ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਹ ਲਿੱਖ ਕੇ ਗਏ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਤੋਂ ਕਿਸਾਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਦਰਦ ਹੋਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ  🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
ਹੋਰ ਕਿੰਨੀਆਂ ਕੁ ਜਾਨਾਂ ਲੈਣਗੇ ਇਹ ਕਾਤਿਲ ਨਵੇਂ ਖੇਤੀ ਆਰਡੀਨੈਂਸ ਤੇ ਬੇਦਰਦ ਸਰਕਾਰ |
ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਆਤਮਿਕ ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ ਲਈ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਕਰਿਓ ਤੇ ਉਮੀਦ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਕੁਰਬਾਨੀ ਰੰਗ ਲਿਆਵੇਗੀ |
बहुत दुखद समाचार - बाबा राम सिंह जी सिंगरा नानकसर ने किसान धरने में खुद को गोली मार ली और मर गए।  अपने अंतिम नोट में, उन्होंने लिखा है कि किसानों का दर्द मुझसे देखा नहीं जा सकता है
ये हत्यारे नए कृषि अध्यादेशों कितने और जीवन लेंगे?
#farmersprotest #babaramsinghji
 
Source: https://www.facebook.com/323263358019596/posts/1337952329884022/
 
 
 

Just passing by, I notice things are working out for me..when I fall at the feet of Satguru Nanak Dev Ji Charan lotus radiant feet while listening to japji sahib.
I specially fall at the feet during Tu sada salamat Nirankar Mahavak which furthers helps me in the simran of Vahiguru Gurmantar.
So with prema bhagti begs for his blessing
1. ~Tu Sada Salamat Nirankar ~
2. ~Tu Sada Salamat Nirankar ~
3. ~Tu Sada Salamat Nirankar~
Spontaneously import at the last Mahavak during Tu Sada Salamat Nirankar into my surat which helping me clearing lot of spiritual blocks and trauma during simran of Vahiguru at the heart level at right side of chest.
There is the divan of sant mohinder singh ji jarg wale, if you need further reference, mahavak or updesh of atam gyan in form of Vahiguru absorption given directly to one's surat not to the mind. So importing could happen in due time and with discplined prema bhagti and abhyas.
 
Hope it helps.
 
 

I've heard the pangti being used in this context but can't find it.
Dhan chotay mun kaha summyee...

Bhai Dharamjit Singh ji clearly explains the panj Shabad sounds.
Bansuri - Flute
Pakawaj - Tabla
Rabaab - string instrument
Sank - Conch shell
Gungeroo - Jingling ankle bracelets worn by ladies
Gurbani Ang 884

I don’t claim to be of any avastha or spiritual stage. This path of bhagti is never ending. But it’s a path of Bhagti. Of Love. Not avasthas, who’s higher up, what’s higher up. There is no higher or lower. It’s only until you literally put your head on the floor and accept your self as shit as the Gurus themselves accepted themselves as lowly worms, that you start truly loving. I’m by no means perfect at all. I accept myself as shit. I’m just a sinner, we all are without Him. For without Truth, we live in ego, 
 
I wondered around for years in fear etc. it actually took me ages to accept the Truth. I dont usually talk about this stuff because I don’t dwell on visions anymore and I don’t think anyone’s higher or lower for having them, that’s ego. I guess I started accepting everything’s Him when I started having visions, of the Gurus etc, lights, auras, all that stuff. I know a lot of people who have these so no big deal, and doesn’t make anyone great or worse as His creation is Equal, all an extension of Him. 
 
I used to see his shakti, blue lights, everywhere, on and as everything etc, hence realising, it’s all just One, I saw and felt His prescence as Everything, everywhere on everyone in waking life. I knew it was Him as a wife knows their spouse. I first started having those experiences properly when I started doing naam simran at 4am, my third eye seemed to open and then there was no going back. Then the next few years, I started going deep into samadhi, and having experiences. Going deep into the sunn, I realised, it’s All just Him. I felt like my heart was opening to the universe and that it’s all just an extension of Him.
I understood that He has no form or image, that the world is a dream and an illusion, and the reality is Nothing, but a frequency, that can’t be described. His presence. I’ve gone through phases where I’ve had dreams of the Gurus guiding me almost every single night some weeks and too many darshans to count. I know other Sikhs who have had these too, and although I accepted the blessings, I’ve realised not to dwell on them as they’re guiding lights that help lead the way and also Reassurance that we’re on the right path. 
I started understanding that the Dukh and the Sukh, the good and bad, angel, demons are all just Him. I started forgetting, but when I forgot, I’d bring myself to the present moment and remember that it’s All just Him. There is no image or form, the images are Him. I’d apply what I’d learned in my samadhi in real life. It’s just a frequency you vibrate at, like a knowledge you have that brings you to a level where you know it’s Him and can feel it. In reality, it’s just Love, my heart was open to Him. In the good and the bad. Any visions of demons Or ghosts I would have, I’d just start laughing and say God I know it’s just you, and go back to sleep or my business. 
 
I actually realised Love of Truth, As in my heart had expanded to basically its zenith, when I’d pushed all of the visions I used to have constantly in waking life aside, accepted my life and work, and my time on this earth as my Karam for now, and also experienced a lot of Dukhi in life and in my work. One day when things were bad, My heart opened so much, I felt like it had burst, and I realised that all the bad eggs I’d met, the con artists, nindaks etc, and the messed up things that had happened as well as the happiness and the good, had opened my heart to realise that it’s all just Him, love, and that’s when I realised that the path isn’t rocket science, and by no means about where you’re at, for the path is Endless and the Truth discoveries Never End. Its just True Love, In good and bad, accepting this universe as One, that we are One. You can’t properly explain love, you have to feel it, and walking on the straight and narrow path, following gurbani/ being good, taking care of your mind, body, spirit, supporting your own life, naam simran etc is the way to do it. Love has no logic and you have to experience it yourself. He is not some unattainable level you can’t reach. He’s everywhere, He flows through us, and His love for us is Unconditional. He’s everyone and thing we see and all that we don’t. It’s an advanced psychology. He’s not simply accessible to some on the path and others less. That’s what the Gurus tried to tell us. Look around you and remember or apply  it. Gurbani tells us it many times. Talk to Him, ask Him for Guidance yourself. 
 
 

Waheguru ji, 
You are absolutely correct, I am not contradicting any thing you wrote nor m trying to argue. All I am saying is what I understand as per my experience. Being Nirbhau isn't easy. We all know Guru Nanak sahib told us that my waheguru ji has these amazing attributes. He's Nirbhau, Nirvair, Akaal moorat, KartaPurakh, ajoooni .... I would love to go on and on On this...  we all want to be like our supreme Dad of course. 
But it isn't easy. I have seen many abhiyaasis getting scared in their Abhyaas. I have felt a terror myself. Being Nirbhau is just isn't something you can do to yourself it's his grace- avastha that he himself imparts when and only when one Trust him- surrender to him completely. - hun Tu jaan Waheguru meri Dori haath tumhare. Tu farr mainu..  mai kujh nahi bass tu hi tu hai jo hai.. 
@harsharan000 one n first positive response from you. Made my day😊😊. 
 

This is just a blanket statement unless you know otherwise. Gyan is not that simple and it's not about just accepting that he's all.
There are many members in this thread that discuss specific and validated practices. Other members try their best to answer questions as explicitly as possible or guide towards a specific source where available.  No offense, but blanket statements or vague quotes are not what readers from all over the world look for in this particular thread.
Believe me, there are some members  that can see the brahm-jyot in and all around them if they put their dhyian there. But that's just a preliminary stage towards ever seeing the waheguru in all like Bhai Kanhaiya did whilst attending and comforting both muslims and sikhs on the same battlefield.     To say that great gurmukhs like him felt that stage by "just accepting he's all", is an insult to their avasthas.
There is so much kamayee needed before one can get to that stage and that gurmukh's surti would be in turiya avastha at ALL times whilst he's astool (physical) dehi is in maya.    
 

Waheguru ji, 
You are absolutely correct, I am not contradicting any thing you wrote nor m trying to argue. All I am saying is what I understand as per my experience. Being Nirbhau isn't easy. We all know Guru Nanak sahib told us that my waheguru ji has these amazing attributes. He's Nirbhau, Nirvair, Akaal moorat, KartaPurakh, ajoooni .... I would love to go on and on On this...  we all want to be like our supreme Dad of course. 
But it isn't easy. I have seen many abhiyaasis getting scared in their Abhyaas. I have felt a terror myself. Being Nirbhau is just isn't something you can do to yourself it's his grace- avastha that he himself imparts when and only when one Trust him- surrender to him completely. - hun Tu jaan Waheguru meri Dori haath tumhare. Tu farr mainu..  mai kujh nahi bass tu hi tu hai jo hai.. 
@harsharan000 one n first positive response from you. Made my day😊😊.