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Lol, what a total bufoon.

Typical money hungry conman, justifying his 'sangat' pleasing bollywood music.

The reason Sants say certain things in a certain context directed towards specific people are because they want to teach the disciples until they are on their own and mature enough and can avoid downfalls.
LIving life as a student in a jatha, as a Bihangam or a householder are quite different.

Just stop there... There Rehit maryada is the FURTHEST from original... You are only looking at equality making it original but there are many other factors that come into play...

Not bloody likely! Look at stitistics in marriages who is the one more likely to commit infedility! Most women can talk to men without thinking about having sex with them! Not so the other way around.

omg ^ tell everyone around her to keep japping Waheguru , also keep photos of Guru Nanak wherever she stays.

My grandmother was very emotional, sensitive, tears flowing , calling her relatives and myself often, always looking for someone's company in her last month of life.
In her last week of life, she went to the hospital, was restless, and also saw beings in the hospital room and highway. She would tell my aunt who are these people walking around,, dont you see them ? for her it was real human beings present, she didnt know the difference.
And her last day she was at home, but quite peaceful and calm. She still had the plate of food in her hands when she left the physical body.


So this is an experience of many people who are about to leave, that they see beings. So you must talk to her , and let others know too...it might be her last days , and ask everyone to recite Gurbani and Waheguru Jaap.

Satkirin.... I will say it again. MEN and WOMEN are COMPLETELY EQUAL in sikhi!

Its perfectly fine if you don't agree with one jatha or another..

Sikhs still have love for each other!!

You should stay and check out other topics!

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Benji don't go... It's always good to hear another persons view..

This sounds like a method of hiding away from the issue.
According to my understanding, one will NOT conquer the mind by trying to hide from any of the 5 dhut.
The strength is in the one that approaches and slays the dhut out of the way, not the one that dodges them

The problem is not the flocks of women around, the problem is the weak man's Mind and it's TEMPTATIONS.
The strength and purity is in the one that can walk through the red-light district of Amsterdam, totally unaffected or tempted and in doing so, maintains his innermost purity throughout the walk !

Guru Nanak jis says to be the 'Lotus' that rises above the deep muddy waters to get across.
The quoted is saying to make the waters less muddier and deeper instead.

You know that Gurbani uses the lotus metaphor for many specific reasons, and one of them is because a lotus only grows and blossoms in muddy waters!

It's a genuine shame that you have been annoyed to such an extent that you wish to leave this forum, because you did provide fresh insight from a Singhni point of view on a myriad of issues. But, if this is your decision........
Wish you well, all the best

Bro, you are right. But, it is important to know the background of a scholar before we start listening to him. Schooling definitely makes a difference. You cannot compare a Harvard university grad to an ordinary college grad. It is possible that a person who is not associated with the orthodox sects of Sikhism, to be spiritually higher than a taksali (for example), but when it comes to scholarly discussion, the taksali should be supported or listened to.

Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa
Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Bro, have you noticed differences in the thinking of new and old Taksalis?

Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa
Waheguru jee kee Fateh

it is the purpose and job of the Akaal Takhat to summon these insane extremist Sikhs who are beating up sadhus etc

Khande Ki Paul is based on the jantra tantar mantar philosophy. The mechanical philosophy is nothing new and exists in Sanatan India for centuries, for example the performance of Yagas, acquire Siddhi, control ghosts etc. It is based on secret method of manipulating nature and its elements. Its requisites are the use of the hidden mantras (mantra) and the amalgamation of certain physical objects (jantra) upon which a certain practice is carried (tantra) out inorder to acquire an end result such as warrior spirit water (Kandeh Ki Paul). The whole purpose of Vaisakhi 1699 was to create a martial brotherhood that would uproot all tyranny and evils in the world. The khandeh di paul is a sacred baptism into this doctrine which itself infuses the spirit to fight evil and tyranny in the world and against the inner spiritual world.

There are 3 types of amrit in Sikhism

1. Khandi ki paul 2. Amrit Naam. 3. Divine Consciousness (brahmgiani)


Mantra = 5 banis,
jantra = Bata, Khanda, pedestool, Water, Sugar, 5 Beloved rehatvaan, spiritiual Singh's in bana
tantra = The whole amritsanchaar process
Result = Khande Ki Paul

I remember watching the matrix in 2003 and I can't tell you how many times I used the matrix analogy when explaining sikhi to people. I'm surprised somebody else has used this movie as well.

A quick watercolors that I painted.
 
But Bhagat Singh Ji, your skills are out of this world. It would be kool if you could transfer the experience of higher dimensions through colors and forms

In case you don't know, I quote Kulbir Singh from GurmatBibek forum:

"Sootak according to the Hindu faith, is related to the Bhitt (pollution, jooth) that occurs for some weeks after childbirth. The woman in these days (up to Sava month i.e. 40 days or so) is not allowed in the kitchen or do other work in the house. Some scholars believe that this practice was started with good intentions of letting the women rest after childbirth but eventually it became a superstition. Whatever the case, Gurbani has rejected the Bhitt related to Sootak."

Wow an artist I pencil sketch but not so much into painting. I studied graphic arts though before I got into the military. But... I just realized, I have been using your painting of Mai Bhago as my cell phone wallpaper for a long time now

Btw, this is what I consider nature photography... I also took this here locally in Halifax Canada... (I consider landscapes to be well... landscapes haha)

In the month of April, Sikh world celebrates Vaisakhi - the day when foundation of Khalsa was laid by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Here is a beautiful Infographic by Sikh Stage that shows the basics of Vaisakhi and its history. For more Sikh Infographics, follow Sikh Stage on facebook - facebook.com/SikhStage Click here to read - http://on.fb.me/1CK1u0V

Guru di Kirpa naal those assholes hopefully got what they deserved...

Rakhri is more of a Punjabi Thing Than Sikh...
Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale Mentioned it but that was just like blowing it off as a punjabish thing..

Sant Waryam Singh Ji Ratwara Sahib Wale Talkes about the origin at 12:30

Don't be disheartened with Sikhism. The relationship is between you and Guru . You have already quoted excellent examples from Gurbani. So in Gurus eyes you are equal to Him. Why bother about what others think? It is silly, if you are getting disheartened just because you feel you are not equal. Suck it up and stay strong. There are examples in history when individuals have been disowned by their families but they did not leave Sikhi. This is a test. Stay firm.

Sikhi is about developing a relationship with Guru , taking it to love and beyond. Don't be affected by what others think or not. And at the same time keep doing self inquiry within yourself as well. There will always be a clash of opinions and interpretations on any topic. Dont think that you are being though of as an unequal or inferior.

As for Sat Sangat, do sangat of people who increase love for Guru and join you to Guru. For me sat sangat is being in a company of a Sadhu/ Mahapurakh.

Stay in Chardikala. And take a rest from debates for little while.

Regarding lakes... obviously all water is clear... but the colours are filtered differently, and yes the sky is the influence. You know, there is a lake in Ladakh region of Kashmir it's a high altitude lake on the border of China and India called Pangong. Its in an area that you have to have special permission to visit. I was lucky to have gotten to see it in Sept just past. You won't believe me if I told you the colour... so I will just post a pic Yes... it's really this colour in person!

Satkirin_Kaur,
You seem to be considering yourself seeing beyond the physical traits but you end up going deeper into physical aspect. Understand the play, the more you try to go beyond, the more you go deeper into the same which you fight against. It is bound to happen if we don't understand the things properly. So, you end up being on the other side of the argument and NOT going beyond it.

There is a triangle: Neutral (at top) from which comes the duality (Positive and Negative).

First of all, if you've choosen Sikhism just because of the equality concept then from my point of view, its really sad. You can follow any kind of equality by being an atheist; what's the harm in being an atheist? So, again, think about YOUR choice if you're attracted to Sikhism just because of some equality OR because of the Truth?

One should follow any religion (Sikhism being one of them) IFF he/she is looking for some disciple which would eventually lead one to God via some technique.

Now the question of gender equality: There are 2 different points of view. Read this carefully without any prejudice.
1. First point of view is from the Creator's view; i.e in order to reach the Source, gender/caste/creed/karma/good-vs-bad/any-other-duality does NOT matter. It is because all is Him and everyone has equal rights. This is what is taught in real Spiritual schools or in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Second point of view is from the Mind/Time/Kal's view; i.e the entity who is responsible for the working of this universe. He has created a set of rules: karma/duality in every aspect of life. From this point of view, it does matter if a person is born in a criminal enviornment vs the person born in Spiritual family. Now, as per the FIRST point of view, both persons does have equal rights to go the Source but because they are in duality and in the corrupt environment, the person born in Spiritual family DOES have some advantage over the other. Moreover, there are many many other complex patterns that would come into play e.g if the person born in criminal family is inclined towards Spiritualism etc and is attracted to some good person leading him/her to higher spiritual state etc etc.

It (Mind/Time) along with Maya is extremely complex system designed to keep the Souls in regions lower than the 3rd eye. Compare it with the movie "The Matrix 1999". Gender being the part of this system (duality) is bound to have some advantages and disadvantages, so does every man born in different environment. "The Laws of Manu" along with Vedas are part of this complex system; reading them would tell us the working (karma/gender etc.) using which one can go to many heavens but NOT beyond the Mind. Using this system one can understand the working of this universe and can manipulate the things in order to secure the place in some heaven (e.g being a Pativarta - i.e treating your husband as God; charity to poor etc. etc.) but keep in mind that these things might bring a good karma but NOT help you go beyong the entity (Mind) who designed this whole system. So, if your intention is to reside in 2nd point of view but keep on debating about the equality, then keep in mind that you're going even deeper into mind. Mind is at play. But if your intention is to go to Source, then as per Guru Nanak Dev Ji: "Man Jeetai Jagjeet". It is foolish to debate on something (be it gender, food etc.) which IS different but the difference is NOT binding you to go to the Source.

REMEMBER that we're here to make sure that we break this karma bond and go beyond the Mind; to the Source. This is the central theme of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji where no matter what's your karma/caste/gender/criminal-vs-priest. ANyone can go beyond.

At last, it does NOT mean that one should not take are about the good deeds vs bad deeds because after all we ARE residing in this complex system of Time and Maya; and by using this system (Mind) wisely, one can go beyond. We don't have to fight with the system, just use it to go beyond. Don't indulge in good vs bad; man vs women. Just understand the system (Mind/Time and Maya/Matrix) and remember the Source (from which even the Mind/Time and Maya is created.)

In the western judicial system a fake rape claim can put a man behind bars...

That's a very nice way of contemplating.
Just to add, I also had my own thought of thinking of the Guru's charan placed firmly in your heart in that his feet sit at the point where your love and simran begins the ascension ....and this is when your heart lotus blossoms.
Quite a few terms used in gurbani with regards to this like hirda kamal and kamal pargasia.