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Here is a historical photo for you Kaalka <grins>

 

I think the answer is here
 

I do experience this , specially while doing Brahm Kawach Jaaps..i am a overweight guy so it kinda gets difficult for me to sit upright continuously.

This topic has gone completely off track with the same old repeating argument with the same members again.
 
The OP's question was about oral sex...... To answer this from my understanding, I can say that oral sex has nothing to do with sikhi. Sikhi doesn't say you can or you can't, it doesn't ban fellatio or cunninglingus, or state whether one swallows or spits!...... oral engagement is an intimate sexual encounter between a couple as any other act would be considered. In sikhi, one only exhibits this behaviour with ONE lifelong spouse...  I'm not sure exactly what the op's intention was or what they wanted to hear, but let's get this straight- Sexual relations outside a marriage are a no no. ... I'm saying this because many young, distorted minds feel that they can indulge in such acts outside or even before marriage because they feel it is not full sex, or that no one's "cherry" is popped. These folk will be under the impression that they can still be considered pure virgins at the time of marriage because full penetration never occurred, The same goes for people that will be so sure that they haven't committed adultery just because they didn't go all the way... This is a false misconception because sexual relations with anyone means any kind of pleasures gained via senses of touch, feel, taste or sight by use of another's body.
 .....Bottom line is that oral is not prohibited, but it is still an act of sexual relations and is therefore not engaged with anyone other than your husband/wife. What you do with your husband or wife in the bedroom is entirely your business and nothing to do with sikhi. Saying that you can't engage in this or that in sikhi is like saying you can only wipe your backside with this hand or that one because your Sikh.

TARN TARAN, Punjab—The gathering of Sarbat Khalsa 2015 at Gurdwara Baba Naudh Singh today announced appointment of new Jathedars –
Jathedar Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara – Akal Takht Sahib (Bhai Dhyan Singh Mand as acting Jathedar on Bhai Hawara’s behalf) Jathedar Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala – Takht Sri Keshgarh Sahib Jathedar Bhai Baljit Singh Daduwal – Takht Sri Damdama Sahib Appointment of the new Jathedars was accepted by shouts of jaikaras by the Sikh Sangat.  New jathedars are appointed until Vaisakhi 2016.  
A number of other key resolutions were taken –
Giani Gurbachan Singh, Giani Mal Singh, Giani Gurmukh Singh and Giani Iqbal Singh absolved of duties KP Gill and KS Brar have been deemed as “tankhaeeye” (guilty) for their role in the Sikh Genocide.  These have been asked to appear at Akal Takht Sahib by November 30, 2015 Faqr-E-Qaum & Panth Ratan titles have been taken away from Badal, and Makkar is relieved from his title of Shiromani Sevak Starting from November 30 2015, there will be a pursuit for an International Sikh Parliament to represent the Global Sikhs.  Committee will be drafted of Punjab and diaspora Sikhs Denounce desecration and punish perpetrators who do beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib Free political prisoners from Punjab and other struggles such as Kashmir. Sarbat Khalsa recognizes Sikh political prisoners as assets of the Sikh Nation and recognizes Bapu Surat Singh’s plight SGPC will be revised to be democratic Sikhs must refrain from all internal scriptural debates until Akal Takht Sahib is independent. Solidify a sovereign Sikh calendar Vatican like status for Sri Harmandir Sahib where all Sikhs could visit without problems Reaffirm the resolutions adopted by Sarbat Khalsa of 1986 Caste Based gurdwaras are to be stopped globally All Sikhs must adopt all resolutions in letter and spirit

hhmm paaji...if you want to progress in nanak naam....its not really about language skills...its about connecting to that naam that is not judgemental....
i just hope people feel bliss of naam..

All I have seen her do is challenge certain views on women and she used Gurbani to do so. How is that insulting anything? You however have directly insulted women over and over on this site. Women that our Gurus put on equal level to us.  What is she supposed to do when you are suggesting women are not even fully human, that they are downgrades to males? It's an insult to suggest that our Gurus gave equal rights to Sikh women?? This is first I have heard of this!  Sikhism does NOT put females beneath us. What kind of false information are you spreading anyway? What kind of 'ethic' treats women so lowly?? Gurbani says straight out that we are to all see the divine in each other.  Tell me how much respect YOU deserve saying that women are not even fully human, are half men and a downgrade?  
I know her outside of here on Facebook.  She does not disprespect anyone, she only gets frustrated at how some Singhs treat women and want to give women less rights, less privileges, a lesser position while looking down their noses at them. And believe me, I have been lurking here for awhile, and your lowly views of women are pretty obvious!  Besides suggesting women are not even fully human, you have also made suggestions that women should not be given any authority to make decisions, you have said some pretty deragatory things about women.  And you think YOU deserve respect?!!!!  
Our Gurus did not want this for females.  It's YOU who are insulting Sikhi because of your own chauvenist views.  I'm sorry but I had to come here and comment when I heard about this.  I do not look down on women at all and I actually work in support of young girls group here in Germany.  I have no idea what religion you are following but it's not Sikhi. 
 
 

Why rewrite history?
 
I'd mind. 

I guess what I find difficult with *some* sects in Sikhism is that Sikhi is supposed to be about ^^^^that  ONLY Akaaall ---- 
There is only ONE in existence and that ONE IS ALL.  ALL IS that ONE.  To me, duality is not the way to find that ONE. To me, the way to find that ONEness is to practice ONEness in daily life.  I guess that's where I have trouble seeing how traditional Indic customs of placing restrictions on one gender, while giving the other gender full privileges, to me that is causing more duality, reinforcing more separateness... " you look different than me therefore I'll give you less opportunities" kind of thing.  When I strive to look for ONEness and inclusiveness to break that duality, it seems like these sects put up roadblocks that instead reinforce duality by trying to tell me over and over "YOU can't because you are female and I CAN because I am male"  when what I see is there is no you and I.  There is only Akaal Purakh.  I see only that light within each person, and not the temporary gender.  In my whole life I have never imagined telling a guy that I will disallow him to do something because he is a male.  I kind of giggle about the Mother thing... because a male can be just as much a parent, participate just as much in raising a child.  Who carries and gives birth is meaningless... or else adoptive parents would never have a bond with their adopted children.  It's not who gives birth, but who actually raises a child that is their parents.  Men and women can both do that equally.  But it's participation in the religion itself... it's when you read something which says to see ALL with single eye of equality and that the divine light is equally in ALL, but then you have adherents who practice it totally differently - to the point they tell me the way I have been practicing it is wrong - and that this way which only perpetuates more duality doesn't make sense to me.  The ultimate truth is ONEness.  Not male and female.  The ultimate truth is ONE.  not two (genders or otherwise).  So I get a bit frustrated when Singhs wish to create more duality by telling me "You CAN'T because you ARE female"  I am not female... I a soul who is genderless who is temporarily inhabiting a female gendered body.  My soul is the exact same as yours, so in matters relating to religion, we should be equally treated.  Those who say "no WOMAN gave her head that day as an excuse..." I see NO WOMAN, I see NO MAN.  I only see separate instances of the ONE same light.  My intention is not cause any insult. I am trying to show people this reality.... but I feel I am being dragged back into duality more... Is Sikhi about creating more duality....did I miss something?  I thought Sikhi was about REMOVING duality! 
 

There is too much drama with you two ruining every single topic. We got many complaints about you and the way you insult her constantly. Either stop it now or I will have you blocked. All topics are ruined by the marriage drama of you two guys.

Satkirin: Check out the Basics of Sikhi videos on learning Punjabi. They are quite good.
 

Use no Willpower to Cause Your Mantra to Come
One more time, Swamiji and I were walking quietly along the Ganga by the ashram. Once again, there was no conversation going on, when suddenly one of his gems was dropped at my feet. He said, “Use no willpower to cause your mantra to come.” I replied, “Hmmm?” Once again he repeated, “Use no willpower to cause your mantra to come.” This time I said, “Hmmm,” acknowledging not that I understood, but only that I had heard the words. I always appreciated the fact that whenever I would question “Hmmm?” he would always repeat his comment word- for-word. He would not say, “What I meant to say was....” He would literally say the same exact words, which allow me to hear it again, clearly. After his instruction about mantra sunk in, I asked, “What if it never comes?” Swamiji said, “Eventually it will come.”
Later I remembered that he had written an instruction in one of his books that one should allow the mantra to arise and repeat itself. I started to remember the concept in the field of advertising that if a catchy tune was created about a product, after some time people would have internalized that song, and the company would now have free advertising. The product jingle would just go on, inside the minds of their target market, and that this would not cost them any more money. The advertising would be on a sort of free autopilot. I came to see that this is what is referred to as ajapa japa, the automatic remembering of the mantra.
He was right, as usual. For a while it was very difficult to break the habit of speaking the mantra in my mind (using the karmendriya of speech). As he had predicted, the mantra eventually started to come on its own, without me intentionally talking internally. Then, finally, I was truly able to start to follow the mantra into the silence where it was trying to lead me. These empowered mantras that are given to us by the tradition really are tremendous gifts, if only we are willing to learn to follow them instead of just jabbering inside our heads. 

In my humble opinion
These translations are wrong. Although my Punjabi is limited, I don't believe there is a word called 'darling' in Punjabi. What next? Honey? Sugar? 'Sweetums'? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Even Google translate does not give the word 'Darling', when I tried translating the above verse. Punjabi culture is generally very conservative. Punjabis are not free with expressions of love between lovers like in the West.
Secondly, as per my understanding what is written in SGGS Ji is allegory or metaphors and not explicit. Whereas from what I've read on the stories from this site from Dasam Granth, they are explicit. Please educate yourselves on the difference. One are metaphos and the other are stories/tales. This thread is a poor attempt to find parallels between SGGS Ji and Dasam Granth.
 
 

Burst of varaag and detachment are quite common.
The above shabad would be a lot easier for people who do manual labour where they can engage their mind in the remembrance of WaheGuru whilst doing their job. However for some of us who do have jobs that involve using the brain, mind more than the body it becomes more difficult.

Recently got a copy of the the book The Third Eye by Giani Sant Singh ji Maskeen. Can also be read here.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/122046776/The-Third-Eye-Sant-Singh-Maskeen-English
Giani ji makes a very simple and clear point on how one should do simran jaap.
That indivisible Radiant God is Tranquil, Immovable and Immortal.He is distinct from colour and form. How to commune with him? We should not commune with any lighted earthen lamp, Idol or portrait. This is all form. It has been created whereas He is without Form (Nirankar).
Created one becomes extinct. How we may commune with the Formless Creator?
When shabad is to be sung or word 'Waheguru' is to be uttered then we should not bother about it's meaning. Only listen to it. We should be alert that no idea strikes suddenly:-
 
Prab ki ousatat karoh sant meet |
Sing the Praises of the God, O Saints, O friends,
savadhan eaekagar cheet |
with total concentration and one-pointedness of mind.
 
We should be so alert that we may be able to see that coming up idea. When we look at the ascending thought-wave, it is pacified. Concentration is achieved. But their is much duality in concentration. One is uttering the shabad. The other is hearing it. These are two beings. While listening shabad he becomes the form of the shabad. Repeating the Gur-Mantra, now the utterer and the listener of Gur-Mantra is the same:-
 
Aap kathai aap sunanaihaar |
He Himself is the speaker,
and He Himself is the listener.
 
Such a tranquil state is called the state of Nirvaana...

I was told by a very learned gursikh  in 1990 that by having a bhog with a muslim woman, you have created a zina which punishable under the muslim sharia law. Therefore the said woman will be punished with stoning etc. If a child is born due this sexual encounter, the child under sharia will be known as bastered and be shunned upon the communities despite being a muslim. The child will loose all the privilage being a muslim. Thus by your sexual act, you have cause harm directly  2 person , the woman and the child.Further he said that being illegitimate son, the son will cursed you as his father for rest of his life!!

I was told by a very learned gursikh  in 1990 that by having a bhog with a muslim woman, you have created a zina which punishable under the muslim sharia law. Therefore the said woman will be punished with stoning etc. If a child is born due this sexual encounter, the child under sharia will be known as bastered and be shunned upon the communities despite being a muslim. The child will loose all the privilage being a muslim. Thus by your sexual act, you have cause harm directly  2 person , the woman and the child.Further he said that being illegitimate son, the son will cursed you as his father for rest of his life!!

YouTube urls are no longer showing as embedded videos but url links. If you click on the link Safari on my iPad just closes. 
 

Men are ten times more lustful then women....

Lucky, if you look at all of Paapimans posts on this forum it's very obvious what he's trying to prove about women vs men.

What does this scientific evidence show??
That women have more neurons and receptors for taste, smell, sound , vision and touch.............But what does this have to do with Lust/Kaam ?
you thinking about erogenous zones ??

It's us men that get attacked by the dhut of kaam with our unexpected risings of genitalia in the early hours of mornings!.

I know that women don't wake up with auto stimulated genitalia every 6am! ......lol..

Many of us have no idea what you are trying to prove paapiman....

Interesting topic. Since N30ji's article on Nisargadatta, I have been reading the latter's books on "I am" .

In this article, Al Hallaj's "Ana al Haqq" is similar to Nisargadatta's " I am that"( "So Hum") which similar to Moses's " I am that I am" ( ie I am God) to Sikhee's "So hung".( I am that).

Conclusion: at the end of the day, we all return to Him/God=Oneness,Ek Ong kar that is within us.

Stand to be corrected.

Thanks Sat1176. This is beautiful simraan and kirtaan. At time 1:24:00.

Mahela 3

aapae saevaa laaeian aapae bakhas karaee

sabhanaa kaa maa pio hai aapae saar karaee.

naanak naam dhiaaein thin nij ghar vaas hai jug jug sobhaa ho2 [2] .

Just out of interest is hunting in accordance with Gurbani? This is only for my limited knowledge and regarding the beef thing I have read the following in Parchian Dasan Patshaia Ki:

'When the Guru adorned his high seat, a man suddenly appeared and cried, "Oh true emperor! I have become guilty of cow slaughter." The Guru instructed the attendant to conduct him nearer to him. On being asked the man repeated, "oh true emperor, I have become guilty of cow slaughter." "Don't be stupid, you appear to be under the influence of a Masand. That is why you are upset and lamenting thus. So what if a cow has died? Go home and relax. It is the Lord alone, and none else, who kills and revives," said the Guru.'

- 'Episodes from Lives of the Gurus.' Parchian Sewadas, trans. with commentary by Kharak Singh and Gurtej Singh (Chandigarh Institute of Sikh Studies, 1995), pg. 50-53.

And one response is:

Are people craving this physical reappearance as a crutch to avoid confronting the challenges we face as a community, themselves personally.

Personally I don't think Guru ji ever 'prophesised' such a physical return, but instead taught Sikhs that he would forever reside in the Khalsa, in an abstract, spiritual, mystical way. When people bravely uphold his values, he is manifest.

Problem (in my eyes) is that people seem to solely equate the physical aspects of 'Khalsaness' over all else. So you end up with pendu, corrupt fudus, without an iota of nobility about them claiming to be the apex of the modern day incarnation of the Khalsa, because they wear bana: like Badal and other sneaky, selfish fudus.